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Name: Cockroach
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Subject: RE: RE: RE: The Sound Of Stones Tours
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2016
Time: 7:25:08 PM
Remote Address: 66.189.79.75
Message ID: 301766
Parent ID: 301721
Thread ID: 301715
OK, OK, OK....enough badgering, T-Man. Here is my expanded review. I will preface this with a message to the fine people of Gasland that T-Man has bombarded me with emails all day long demanding that I explain my views on how performance, venues, technology, etc. can all contribute to the "sound" of a Stones' tour. I attempted to do so in my email responses, but he would keep badgering me for more. He also called me every name in the book but, since I don't want to offend the delicate sensibilities of anyone here, I'll just say that the two, most polite, names he called me were "ignorant slut" and "slacker." So, please be advised that the following post has been written under duress (and also be advised that what you just read was a complete fabrication! LOL!!!)
I like my rock 'n' roll raw, edgy, and energetic. That's why I picked 1972 and 1969 as my choices for having the best sound. I should have included '64-'67 in there as well but, as others here have mentioned (2K Man and DA), the technology available at the time severely limited the "sound" during that period. 2K Man also mentioned how the sound will always keep improving due to advances in technology. However, that may be detrimental if one prefers their rock 'n' roll to be raw. More on this later.
Now, as Pluto stated, if the '69 and '72 Tours are to be regarded as the best, then the Stones had reached their peak and, as such, had nowhere to go but down...and they did. BUT, they would often dust themselves off and come back up (but I don't think they ever quite reached those heights again.
THE REST:
1975-I told T-Man this was the "Mick Jagger Circus Sideshow Tour." Keith was druggy and Mick decided to mask it with gimmicks; the lotus stage, the inflatable penis, the confetti-spewing dragon, and the addition of Ollie Brown and Billy Preston. Jagger also affected a growling voice that was often quite irritating. I believe this to be one of the band's lowest points tour-wise...BUT, a bad Stones' tour is better than most other band's "good" tours.
1978-The boys bounce back with a stripped-down, raw sound. Keith and the band were in fine form, while Jagger wore idiotic, buffoon-like costumes and adopted that stupid, exaggerated, running in place dance move. Here, as with the next tour, the venue would play an important part in the sound. If you were lucky and caught an indoor show, you were in for a treat. If, however, you saw them in a stadium, the sound was not that good.
1981-Still on a roll. The raw rock 'n' roll was still there but, as T-Man AND 2K Man have mentioned, the guitars sounded thin and tinny. Again, technology and venue contributed to this. The guitars sounded better indoors than they did outdoors.
1989-Regarded by some as a "come-back" tour for the band, the technology had greatly improved and the sound was pretty good. In fact, it was "too good." By that, I mean it sounded polished and slick. This is the tour I refer to as the Stones' Vegas Act Tour. Great sound, but too polished for rock 'n' roll. Plus, this was the first tour where Keith was more interested in adopting "rock-star" poses and neglecting to play his guitar. Also, the first tour to feature Bernie, Lisa, and Cindy as back-up singers....like I said, slick.
1994-The Voodoo Lounge Tour. Definitely the Stones on an upswing. Great sound no matter where you saw them. They retained Bernie and Lisa, but Cindy was no longer in the fold. I only saw one show on this tour, but I have no real complaints.
1997-1999-Ahhh...NOW we're getting somewhere, Ronnie. Technology still improving the sound but, for these tours, it added to the sound. The guitars were raw and edgy, Jagger (actually, everyone in the band) seemed to be re-energized). Lots of great special effects that, unlike the '75 tour, added to the show. The real treat was when the Bridges Tour turned into the No Security Tour. The sound, again, was excellent, the band was energetic, and we were treated to songs that were rarely, if ever, played live before. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, '97 saw the introduction of the B Stage....a GREAT addition. Did it have anything to do with the sound? No, but it was a nice part of the show.
2002-2006-This is where I asked T-Man if I could separate the years (he had originally listed it as 2002-present). I did this because the 2002 shows I saw were ON FIRE (came VERY close to the "peak" years, IMO), but the 2005/2006 Bigger Bang shows seemed to be lackluster events loaded with warhorses and Keith neglecting his guitar again. They still had a great "sound," though...but it felt like it was "Back To Vegas" to me (becoming too slick and polished for my tastes).
2006-Present-I shouldn't comment on these shows. My last show was in 2006, so it's probably not fair for me to pass judgment but, from DVDs, bootlegs, and the magic of YouTube, I don't think much has changed since 2006....
If you made it this far, BRAVO! Actually, if you've read this whole thing, my advice would be to get out, have some fun, and stop reading an "ignorant slut's" posts on a Stones' message board. LOL!!!
See? I'm no "slacker," Ronnie...I mean, T-Man!
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