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Name: Keno
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Subject: Poll Post for the week starting Monday, Feb 10
Date: Monday, February 10, 2020
Time: 12:39:02 AM
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Time to get this week’s Poll Post underway for our 4 weekly polls. We will start off as usual with the Stones Poll and ask this: Which Stones song written about themselves or their fellow band members, is best?
So for this week at our Stones poll (BTW, it's week # 1,072), we get back to more positive a question, this week looking at songs that Jagger/Richards wrote (one Ronnie actually wrote but he wasn't credited) that were about their fellow band members. There are 10 such songs, 2 were never released but recorded, and then the Ron Wood song just noted, was actually written about himself - 2 years before he became a Stone, but when recording the number, Mick was there to sing with Ronnie and he did add extra lyrics to it, and of course, he made the song a Stones song and took over the lead vocals. But with that song in mind - plus 2 others listed, there are 3 songs that were written about themselves (and others).
Other than Mick Taylor, who nobody in the Stones ever wrote about, all of the other Stones come up in these songs, Mick J the most - 7 times, Keith 5 times, Brian 3 times, and Ronnie, Charlie and Bill once each. Yet nowhere in any of the songs are their names mentioned. You just need to know the songs (and the Stones) to know who it is being discussed in the lyrics….. Okay, so, time to vote, just click here to do so: Stones Weekly Poll.
Looking back at the results for our Stones poll last week, the question asked: Which Stones disco song is the worst of the worst?
Well the answer to this one resulted in a mini landside pick, as “Rock and a Hard Place (hard disco version), took in 25.7% on the first place votes. I agree, if it isn’t the band’s worst ever overall song – it is the band’s second worst ever song – and as far as you fans go, your second place pick for worst Stones disco song was “Too Much Blood (long disco version) with 15.6% of the vote. Really, these 2 are real bad, and there’s few Stones songs that you can say that about.
Now I noted last week that the reason I was asking this question was so that I could cut down on the number of Stones disco songs that I would have to list when we ask this question at the Rock Poll in a few weeks. Looks like I’ll go with either 2 or 4 songs from the Stones for that question, so if I go with 4, the other 2 songs that came in third and fourth and might get listed will be “Hot Stuff” with 15.4% and “If I Was A Dancer (Dance Pt 2) at 15.2%. That upcoming Classic Rock Poll question has enough disco songs from Classic Rock bands (only) for a 3 week run, yet no other Classic Rock band – has made more than 2 disco songs each – and that’s maybe 10% of the bands that will have listed, as most only recorded one each. Yet the Stones made 8 such songs?! What the hell was Mick trying to do to us loyal fans? Why did Keith even allow this to happen? Oh well, it did happen and we can’t change any of that now.
To see the final results from this Stones disco poll, just click here: Stones Weekly Poll - week 1,071. Or you can check out the top 5 picks listed on the Stones Fans’ Top Picks List, Page 1, at the very bottom of the page.
Okay, let’s move on over to this week’s Classic Rock Poll, where we enter week 712 of voting, where we vote on 2 different Rock Poll questions for this poll. The first poll’s question asks this: What's the best Rock Song written about dogs, or has 'dog' in its title? (Part 2 of 3)
Oh, this sounds just soooo good!So now it’s time for Part 2, or week 2 if you prefer, of this 3 week/part poll question about dogs. Same deal from last week applies to this week’s poll, and yes, another 25 songs will be listed, and then next week the best of the bunch will go up against each other in the final round.
To cast your vote in this week’s first Rock dog poll, just click here: Classic Rock Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 1” to vote on this question.
For our second Rock question of the week, we have the Rock Video Polls, and will ask this: Rate Gary DeCarlo/Steam's live video performance of 'Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye”
Left, the band that pretended to be Steam, Right, Gary DeCarlo who actually sang the song
Here at our video polls, we almost always go with the official video for any one song, but yes sometimes I opt for a live performance of the song if it's really good, and this week I will do this, but not only for that reason. First, let me back up - a lot. "Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye" was released by a "band" called "Steam", back in November of 1969 as a last minute added and recorded B side single when 3 songs that singer Gary DeCarlo had recorded were all considered good enough to be A side singles. So they needed a new B side song for the first release (called "Sweet Laura Lee") and rushed into the studio to record it. But Steam was actually just DeCarlo on lead vocals along with the 2 other guys who he co-wrote the song with, Paul Leka and Dale Frashuer. The song was actually an old one that they wrote in the early 1960s (and back then just titled "Kiss Him Goodbye") when the three were in a doo-wop group called "the Glenwoods". Leka (who's biggest fame up to this point was writing the hit song for The Lemon Pipers, "Green Tambourine"), and whom was a session piano player by trade, played besides piano on this number, a vibraphone, too, which was actually the song's lead instrument – that is, besides the strong percussion played by Frashuer and DeCarlo, along with getting an engineer in the studio to add in a drum track from one of the other DeCarlo songs already recorded. But there is no guitar or bass at all anywhere on the song. Leka also felt a chorus should be added into the song to give it an extra kick. He felt something sung real simple would do, but had no lyrics written yet, so sitting at the piano, he starting to sing over and over 'na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na'... as temporary backing vocals and was singing that while playing piano to just get a feel to see how backing vocals would sound on the song. While Leka kept singing those same lyrics over and over, after a bit DeCarlo decided to add to it - by ad libbing "hey hey, hey, goodbye". After a while they realize those simple lyrics were all that were needed and they had Frashuer join then singing the backing vocals, and without realizing it, the 3 had what in time would become one of the most loved backing vocals sung not only in Rock music, but in time sung by fans at major team sporting events whenever the home team won a big game - or in baseball whenever a pitcher is taken out of a game. To this day these simple vocals are still sung in this matter at sporting events both in the U.S. and Europe.
But the crazy thing was this song was recorded in the last minute to only be a throwaway B song for DeCarlo's record - and credited to a band that didn't even exist! Then one day a deejay in Georgia played "Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye" on the radio. Requests to replay the song began to pour in by phone. So the radio station put the song on its main play list and after that, other radio stations picked it up and this song spread throughout the South. When Mercury Records’ (which the song was released on), heard this news, they re-released the song as an A side and in no time well over 100,000 copies of the song sold, landing it on the Billboard charts and in a 2 week period it would go all the way to the top of the charts, just a couple of weeks before that Xmas, knocking the Beatles double A single "Something”/”Come Together” out of the No. 1 spot, and the tune stayed there into the new year, making it the very last #1 song of the 1960s and the first one of the 1970s. To date, over 7 million copies of this “throwaway" song has been sold!
The only problem with all of this was there was no real band called "Steam", and requests for this band to tour came pouring in. So a road group that was pictured on the single's cover, and that was shown in the video made for the song once it was becoming a hit, were hired to be Steam. While they were a real band and had no problem learning to play live the songs that DeCarlo had recorded, they actually had nothing to do with the recording of any of these songs. Yet they actually became the band Steam and toured for 2 years off of these songs until they finally disbanded. It wasn't until a few years later that the truth as to who actually sang the song was reviled.
So getting back to this video and what I was at first noting, I was gonna go with the official video that was released in 1970 of this now new band called Steam who actually didn't really record this song. Chances are you have seen it a million times, and yes, the video did work and I'm sure it would get high ratings from us fans since they did what they needed to do in the vid, they sold it all very well, even if it wasn't them playing or singing on the actual studio cut. I'll place the URL here for that official video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsaTElBljOE - but notice, I'm not linking to it since this isn't what we are rating this week and I don't wish to confuse anybody to which link we are voting on. What we will rate is a live version of the song made in 2014 of Gary DeCarlo himself singing the song live on a TV show. There is a band in the background that you will see playing live, but I'm pretty sure the music heard here is from the studio cut, since playing the studio music over the live music is an old common practice used on TV shows (a practice that the Stones of all bands actually started in the late '60s), but since I don't see a vibes player up on stage with this band, well there has to be at least some studio music heard here. So only the vocals are for sure live and the main thing that we will rate. The live audience really gets into this song and when the break in the song comes where there's no singing, well, for this take there sure is, as the audience totally takes over the song at that point, and DeCarlo looks very pleased to this response. As it was, he only started to sing the song live himself about 5 years earlier.
I've always wondered what it's like to write a hit song and also be the one to sing it, yet nobody knows that it's you who's singing this hit song since others are given the credit instead. It actually has happened to many singers in the past (hum, a possible new poll question perhaps?) but in DeCarlo's case, it was he himself who didn't wish to be in the limelight for this song, not until 40 year later when he finally started to sing it live. Sadly, DeCarlo would become sick about a year after this performance was made, as he was a tobacco smoker, and he developed lung cancer, which in a short time spread throughout his body and killed him a year and a half later in June of 2017.
But damn, not only a great song, but a great and unusual story behind it, too! To vote in this video poll - and to also check the live performance, just click here: Classic Rock Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 2” to vote on this question.
Last week in our first Rock Poll, the question was: What's the best Rock Song written about dogs, or has 'dog' in its title? (Part 1 of 3)
Dogs dig Rock music, too!
Okay, so normally for a 3 part poll, I take the top 10 songs voted on in Parts 1 and 2 and then we choose from those 20 songs in Part 3 to find out which one we like the best. But we also have the golden rule that to qualify for the final round, a choice must receive at least 5% of the vote in either Parts 1 and 2 to qualify. In Part 1 last week, well, that didn’t happen for all 10 of the top songs, so because of that, only 7 songs from this first round will make it to round 3. They are: ‘Hound Dog’ - Elvis Presley (13.7%), ‘Black Dog’ – Led Zeppelin (13%), ‘Martha My Dear’ - The Beatles (12.9%), ‘Walking the Dog’ - Rolling Stones (12.5%), ‘I'm Gonna Buy Me a Dog’ - The Monkees (11.8%), ‘Old King’ - Neil Young (9%) and ‘I Remember Jeep” - George Harrison (with Eric Clapton & others) (5.3%).
To see the full, final results from this poll, just go here: Classic Rock Poll, week 711, Poll 1.
Last week in the Rock Video Poll we voted on this Rate The Crazy World of Arthur Brown's performance video of “Fire”
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Fire’s single sleeve
The top 3 choices of 10, 9, and 8 in this poll took in over 97% of all the votes! “10” did lead the way with 32.7% of the votes. To see the full, final results from this poll, just go here: Classic Rock Poll, week 711, Poll 2. Or to view the video standings and see where this one fits in on that list page, you can do so by clicking here: Top Ten Lists, Page, 16. The standings are located near the top of the page.
Last but never least is the Beatles Poll that we now will look at. This week we enter week 463 of polling, and yes, we are still in the middle of answering questions about how much we like or dislike the Beatles albums covers. Here’s the new question for this week: Rate the artwork for the front cover of the Beatles LP, Yesterday and Today (replacement trunk cover)
Yesterday and Today's replacement trunk cover
As noted last week, Yesterday and Today was the Beatles ninth album released on Capitol Records and the 12th American release overall. Released on June 20, 1966, it was yet another #1 hit album in both the U.S. and Canada. But it had one issue, that being, its cover. The original "butcher cover", ended up being banned and then the replacement "trunk cover" which we will vote on this week, took its place. You can read last week’s Poll Post down below on the board about why the first cover got banned if you missed last week’s post.
So how will you rate this other cover? To cast your vote in this week’s Beatle Poll, just click on this following link : Beatles Weekly Poll.
In last week’s Beatle poll….the question was: Rate the artwork for the front cover of the Beatles LP, Yesterday and Today (original butcher cover)
Yesterday and Today's butcher cover)
Overall, fans seem to like this cover today as much as they did in 1966, no matter what the conservative record dealers of the 1960s thought. A “10” was the top pick with 24.8% of the vote. Yet a full 1% of the voters rated this cover a “4” or less, something we don’t usual see a lot of votes for on any Beatle albums, and while 1% is a very small number, it’s a lot higher a number than what we usually see for the very bottom of the list, too.
To see the poll’s full result, just go here: Beatles Weekly Poll – week 462. Or to see the final results on the Beatles List Page, click on: Favorite Beatles Album Covers List Page.That info can be found up on the top of the page.
Well, that takes care of yet another Poll Post! I thank all of you who take part in our weekly polls!
Keno
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