Name: Keno
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Subject: Poll Post for the week starting Monday, Sept 13
Date: Monday, September 13, 2021
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Poll Post for the week starting Monday, Sept 13

We start off this week’s Poll Post for our 4 weekly polls as usual, by talking about the Stones poll, where we are rating all of the songs released by the Stones, so for week 1,154 of voting we’ll ask this question: Rate the Stones song “It's Only Rock n Roll (But I Like It)”, from zero (lowest) to 10 (highest)

“It's Only Rock n Roll (But I Like It)” Mick sticks a pen in his heart

What a great song, written by Ron Wood before he was a Stone, and it was supposed to be a solo song for Ronnie's then upcoming album I've Got My Own Album to Do. But Ronnie made one mistake. He invited Mick Jagger over to his home on the night the song was being recorded in his home studio, and he asked Mick if he would sing backing vocals along with their friend David Bowie, on the tune, as Bowie was also there visiting. Once Mick heard the song, he realized this one was very special, but suggested to Ronnie that it needed more lyrics to it, which Mick wrote while everybody was on a break. But Mick had already decided to steal this one from Ron, and called up Keith Richards and told him to get on over to Ronnie's house ASAP to play guitar along with Ron. But Keith was too stoned that night and never showed up. That didn't matter, and before the song was finished, Mick told Ronnie he wanted the song, and he would give him a Jagger/Richards song in its place, so Ronnie agreed and Mick took over singing the lead vocals. After the song was finished, Mick presented the final take of the ditty to the rest of his band and asked them if they could improve on what was already on there. Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts felt what they heard was good enough and didn't add anything to it nor play on the song. But Keith would be damned if Ron Wood would take his place on the record, and erased all of Ronnie's guitar parts and re-recorded the parts Ron had played on his electric guitar. Only problem was, as you might have heard in the past with the Stones, like when they erased all of Brian Jones guitar work on "Honky Tonk Woman" (but they couldn't erase 100% of it) and had Mick Taylor play over those parts, Keith didn't succeed in removing all of Ron's guitar playing, either, so while both Ron and Keith's guitars are heard on there, just like BJ wasn't credited on HTW, Ronnie wasn't credited for his guitar work on IORR (BILI). Ronnie noted that besides still being able to hear his guitars on different parts of the song, the guitars heard at the close of the song are his only. Taylor was hospitalized on the night that Richards added in his guitar, so he along with Bill and Charlie are all not on the song. One last note was that while Wood wrote all the music for the song and about half of the lyrics, the credit was only given to "Jagger/Richards", and the throwaway song that was given to him to replace this special song, a tune called "Act Together", is pretty much a totally forgotten song today. The final lineup for "It's Only Rock n Roll (But I Like it)" was: Mick Jagger – Lead and Backing Vocals; Keith Richards – Electric Guitar, Backing Vocal; Ronnie Wood – 12–string Acoustic and Electric Guitars (uncredited on album sleeve); Kenney Jones – Drums; Willie Weeks – Bass; David Bowie – Backing Vocal. Note: Taylor (on Guitar), Wyman (on Bass) and Watts (on Drums) do play on the video version of the song (where the band is wearing sailor suits), although sometimes today, instead of the special studio cut the band recorded for the video (before the video was made), the original studio cut heard on the album cut, is used instead.

Anyhow, it’s time to rate this song. To do so, just click on the following link: Stones Weekly Poll.

Last week at the Stones poll we answered this questionRate the Stones song 'Criss Cross', from zero (lowest) to 10 (highest)

“Sympathy for the Devil?” Nope, just a clip from the “Criss Cross” video, as we are rating the song this week

For most of the week this one was scoring a 10, but as the week grew old and after most of the hardnosed Stones fans had voted, it slipped down to a 9, and that ended up being it’s top rating when the poll closed on Sunday nite. To see the full final results from this poll, just click here: Stones Weekly Poll - week 1,153. Or to see the updated song rating standings for this ongoing series, and see where this song landed in the ratings, just click on here: Stones Top Picks - Page 3, List Page 5.

Let’s now take a look-see at this week’s Classic Rock Poll, where we enter week 794 of voting, and for this one we vote in 2 different Rock Polls for the week. So this week’s first poll will ask this question: What is your favorite song about a misfit?.

It’s better to be a “misfit” than a “one-size-fits-all” kinda of person! ….or sheep!

So, exactly what type of person is a misfit? Is a misfit a bad person? Most of the time, no, not at all, but sometimes, yes, they can be. But if you look up the description on the web for this, you will get an explanation something like this: 1) A person who does not conform to others' views of what is normal or acceptable in society. 2) A person whose behavior or attitude sets them apart from others in an uncomfortably conspicuous way. Okay, I can go with that although I'm not sure if the word "uncomfortably" is needed there, even if some of the time it might be okay to use, since a word like "amazingly" could have also been used instead, depending on just who the misfit was or is.

This question was sent in to me by Tim Getz, about a year ago, whose name you've seen connected to such a sentence here in the past (so thanks yet again, Tim) and I'm only getting to using the question this week, since in part more choices were needed for me to find to list for this question, and so in time I ended up adding a whole bunch more songs, to where we have 40 to choose from for this week's poll. One such type of person I added to the list were hippies, since no question, a true hippie is looked at as a misfit (believe me, I know). The hippies from the '60s who later on gave in to sociality and cut off their long hair to joined the establishment, were never true hippies to begin with, just fake ones. Those of us who never did such a thing and were made outcasts by our elders because of who we really were, were and are today true hippies, and no question, true misfits, too. There's no question, you really can’t just become a misfit, you got to be born one, for the most part, or perhaps be taught to be one as a child from your misfit parents. Plus, for a song to make the list, it's got to be directly about a person who is a true misfit, and not where such a person is just mentioned once or twice in the song.

Three (unnamed for now) songs by the Stones are in this poll, with two of them written by Mick, one is loosely about himself, which Tim suggested, and then the other one he wrote about Brian (but I went with the boot version of that song, written when BJ was still alive, since the second, official release of the song was much more kinder a song and re-written to be more about a lost, late friend (and no longer just about a misfit). The last Stones song listed which Keith wrote, he wrote about himself. But no question, them 3 Stones were/are all misfits. Same thing with Lennon and McCartney, since both were also misfits, although Paul only was a little. But his big-time pot smoking - if nothing else, got him on the list.... I mean, his getting busted and thrown in jail while on tour in Japan, was a perfect example of a stoned-out misfit. For Lennon, well no explanation is needed.

Plus, although I didn't add it to the list, since it's only well known to Stones fans on the internet, the Angles of Wonderland punk rock song, “Whores Of Babylon” , about our beloved and now closed Gasland board and its regular posters the Gassers, is for sure about a bunch of mainly misfits. Had I listed that one, I'm sure it would have gotten a bunch of votes! But with all that said, which song was the best one made about such people? To vote in this week’s first Rock poll, just click on here: Classic Rock Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 1” to vote in this poll.

For this week, we bring back the Rock Video polls, and ask this: Rate The Edgar Winter Group's video for “Frankenstein” (Click 'here' for the video), from zero (lowest) to 10 (highest)

“Frankenstein” Edgar Winter played 3 different instruments on this song, even when he played it live; above he’s shown playing 2 of them in the video

An instrumental written in 1972 by Edgar Winter and then recorded by The Edgar Winter Group and released in February of the following year. Many claim this tune is one of the best Rock instrumentals ever made. While the single was 3:30 long and went all the way to #1 on the charts, the album cut was a bit longer at 4:44. But when they played the song live, they would sometimes play the original version of the song that was never released, which ran for well over 10 minutes. For the video version that we will rate this week, well it's just under 10 minutes long and was played live on the BBC show The Old Grey Whistle Test in late 1973.

The 2 released studio versions of the song were broken up into several parts while it was being edited together for release, and was untitled until drummer Chuck Ruff named it "Frankenstein", because of how the song was put together in the same way that the Frankenstein monster was put together (with different parts). The live video we will rate sounds so very close to the studio cut, even if it's more than double the length, time wise. Just watching the band play this one is interesting indeed, with Winter playing 3 different instruments, and with Winter's synthesizer and with Ruff's hard drumming the main instruments on the song (plus Winter's drumming at times is just as hard and good as Ruff's). Ronnie Montrose had played the guitar on the studio versions of the song, while Rick Derringer who produced the song (and the entire LP it was on They Only Come Out at Night), played the guitar on the TV show (and played slide guitar on the LP).

The Edgar Winter Group played this song at my home town's old music festival back in 2008, and I must say when I watch this performance, which I got to see from the front row, it was performed almost exactly like how they played it on this TV show, other than only Winter was in the band the night we saw them, as original bassist Dan Hartman died in the 1990s, and drummer Ruff was just starting to get too ill to perform in '08, and he would die 2 years later. Yet with these new band members (the band’s new drummer was only in his teens), it sounded like they been playing together for years. So, the fact they sounded like the record while playing live, was very cool, to say the least. My preteen grandson who was with me that nite, at first kept asking me why Winter looked so white (he had never seen an albino before), but he was a fan after the show was over, and for a few of the songs would say to me "I know this song grandpa". I'm not sure if Edgar still plays live today or not, but if he does and if you never seen him play live before, he's totally worth checking out!

The lineup for this song in the video was: Edgar Winter – Semi-modular analog subtractive audio Synthesizer, Electric Piano, Saxophone, Drums; Dan Hartman – Bass; Chuck Ruff – main Drums; Rick Derringer – Producer (in studio), Guitar (in video). To vote in the return of our Rock Video Polls, just click on this link: Classic Rock VS Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 2” to vote on this question.

Last week in the first Rock Poll we asked this question: Who was the most underrated member of the band, Kansas?.

Kansas The classic lineup of the band from the 1970s: (L-R): Well, it’s already up there for you to (try to) read.

This was the last week for the main Rock poll to ask everybody to pick the most underrated member of a rock band in this long running series that we ask each summer. Last week we saw a rare pick, as usually drummers and bassists are picked when we vote in this series, but last week the top pick was actually one of the 2 frontmen in the band Kansas, that being the band’s violinist and co-lead singer, Robby Steinhardt, taking in 20.6% of the first-place vote. I myself would normally never vote for a frontman in this poll, but I did go with Robby myself, since he wasn’t like most other band leaders. Robby recently passed away (in July), so RIP dude, you will be remembered by many. To see the poll’s final results, just click on the following link: Classic Rock Poll, week 793, Poll 1. Or, to see “The most underrated member of each rock band” list, and who’s on there from the other bands that we answered this question for already, click on: Top 10 List Page, Page 16, and you will see this listing at the very top of the page.

In last week’s final Rock VS poll of the year, we asked: The Everly Brothers VS Manfred Mann: Who's cover of the song “Pretty Flamingo” is the better take?

VS

Manfred Mann’s “Pretty Flamingo” VS The Everly Brothers’ “Pretty Flamingo”

Something that I hate to see took place last week. Yes, we had a dead heat, as the polling was so very close for the entire week. You can look over the results from this final VS poll by clicking on the following link: Classic Rock VS Poll, week 793. Or, to see the results on the VS list page, just click on here: Rock VS Page 2, List Page 10, and when you get there, head on down to the bottom of the page to see the results.

Let’s wrap up this Poll Post as usual by talking about the Beatles Poll, where this week we enter week 545 of voting, and we are answering questions right now about The Beatles videos. This week’s video poll question asks us to: Rate The Beatles' video for “This Boy” from zero to 10 (Click here for the video)

“This Boy” from The Beatles video

Unlike last week’s video that we rated, this week’s video is one of the oldest Beatle videos around. "This Boy" was written by John Lennon (and credited to “Lennon–McCartney”). It was released in November of 1963 as the B-side of the band's UK single "I Want to Hold Your Hand". In the U.S. it was released in January of 1964 on Meet the Beatles!.

While Lennon sings the lead on this one, most of the song is sung in 3-part harmony by Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison. There's sadly no real info given for this video, other than the person who posted this on YouTube claims it was the "Original Video", but I don’t think so, since I don't ever recall seeing it on TV back in the day, and I never, ever missed the Beatles on TV back in the '60s when they were on the tube in the States. So while this came from a TV show for sure, more than likely it was from UK telly, or some other TV show that aired somewhere in Europe.

But the weird thing to this video is that Ringo was not really shown (close up anyway) until the very end of the song. I say that in part since the non-Beatle instrumental easy listening version of this song, released by George Martin, was re-titled after him and called "Ringo's Theme (This Boy)". It was used and played in the background in the Beatle's first movie A Hard Day's Night during Ringo Starr's sad river walking scene in the film.

The lineup for this very mellow number was: John Lennon – Lead vocal, Acoustic guitar; Paul McCartney – Harmony vocal, Bass; George Harrison – Harmony vocal, Lead guitar; Ringo Starr – Drums. To cast your vote in this poll, just click on the following link: Beatles Weekly Poll.

Looking back at last week’s Beatles poll, we asked: Rate The Beatles' video for “Here Comes the Sun” from zero to 10 (Click here for the video)

“Here Comes the Sun” Beatles 2019 video

We all loved this one as it not only scored a 10 for its top rating, but saw one of the highest 10 scores ever for the Fab’s video ratings. Just how high a score? To see the full, final results of last week’s Beatle poll, just click on: Beatles Weekly Poll – week 544. To see just where in the Top 5 this one sits in the standings of the Beatles/John Lennon Videos and Movies list page, just go here: Beatles/John Lennon Videos and Movies, and look under the “Video Ratings” standings.

That does it for this week’s Poll Post – which got posted late thanks to problems with my web editor. As I type this out, my main Stones page is still not linking to all of the current polls, and I’m gonna try to solve that problem right now, But if the issue is still not fixed after you read this and go to vote, if the link don’t work, just go directly to the Poll Menu page to vote, as that page is working fine.

I hope everybody has a great week ahead and please keep safe out there!.... As I was just typing out that last sentence, I heard a noise on my deck - and one of the largest damn bears that I've ever seen around here, just walked by the door on our deck! I had only just closed the sliding glass door that he walked next to about 20 minutes earlier. But open doors and/or windows are how these bastards get into our homes here (usually at nite), and after the one that broke into my place 3 years ago, I never wish to experience that BS ever again!!

Keno

• Poll Post for the week starting Monday, Sept 13 by Keno on 9/13/2021 12:46:21 AM <-- You Are Here
• RE: Poll Post for the week starting by manny in ny on 9/17/2021 9:10:32 AM
• It's Only Rock n Roll, but I just like it. by gomper on 9/19/2021 10:16:12 PM

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