Name: Keno
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Subject: Poll Post for the week starting Monday, Sept 30
Date: Sunday, September 29, 2019
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Poll Post for the week starting Monday, Sept 30

Let’s kick off the poll post right now for our 4 weekly polls, and as usual start off with the Stones poll, where we enter week 1,053 of this poll! This week’s question is: What's the best slide heard in a Stones song? (Part 2 of 3)

We got another 25 sliding songs to choose from this week and hopefully Part 2 of this question is gonna be as popular as Part 1 turned out to be!

To vote in this week’s Stones poll, just click on: Stones Weekly Poll.

Looking back at the results for our Stones poll last week, the question was: What's the best slide heard in a Stones song? (Part 1 of 3)

Yes, Part 1 of this question was well liked, as we saw the biggest turnout of votes at the Stones poll this year! Maybe some of our voters were just getting burned out on those album matchups week in and week out? Well, for the second week in a row, no album matchup this week either and if Part 1 was that popular, I bet we will do well again this week, too!

Anyway, 3 songs totally dominated last week and they will definitely be back for Part 3 in 2 weeks’ time Those songs are "Little Red Rooster" - Slide by Brian Jones (14%); "All Down The Line" - Slide by Mick Taylor (13.9%); and "Moonlight Mile" - Slide by Mick Taylor (13.5%). But after that the rest of the 22 songs trailed real bad, with the next song - that landed in 4th place being "Doncha Bother Me" - Slide by Brian Jones, only saw 6.9% of the vote!... Now the way I usually do this for a 3 part poll, is I like to see around 15 to 17 songs total involved in Part 3 (going with about 8 songs each from the first 2 parts). But with 3 songs getting far more votes than the rest in Part 1, I could just go with those top 3 picks only - but - that would depend on what happens in this week's Part 2 round. If we see a similar result from this new poll at week’s end, then I very well may decide to go that route for Part 3. Or I might still not do that, but, no more than the Top 8 from last week qualifies for round 3 anyway, since I always go with the 5% rule too in picking songs for the next round, and only 8 songs qualified from Part 1 in that way, anyway.

So to see the full, final results from Part 1, you can click here: Stones Weekly Poll - week 1,052.

Okay, lets move on to the Classic Rock Poll, where it enters week 693, and as usual we vote on 2 polls in this one week for this poll. So for the first Rock poll question, we will ask this: What is the best non-Rock song recorded by a Rock band or artist?

You could say this is a Part 1 of 2 questions - but not really, since next week's question actually is about Country artists only, covering Rock songs, so this week's question is a bit different, as we look at Rockers playing non rock songs, but not just Country songs (even if most of them still are) - but several other genres turn up in this first round, too, like Jazz, Orchestral Music, etc., and that one terrible Irish-jig music crap that the Stones played on (sorry, I just hate that type of music/singing!). But yes, some dig that song and kind of music, so it’s listed too!

There are 31 songs listed this week and I could have easily added in several more. But several of the ones that I did include I feel some of them won't be known by all of our votes, so I left several more such songs off the list, which was long enough anyway for a good one week poll.

I should also note that all of these songs listed in this week’s poll can be found online, so you can listen to all of them before you vote if you just look them up!

To vote in this week’s first Rock poll, just click there: Classic Rock Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 1” to vote on this question.

This week for the video polls, we will ask this: Rate the Alice Cooper band's live performance music video of “I'm 18”

This is of course the band Alice Cooper (and not the solo artist of the same name), who the band members all equally owned the name, and never should have allowed the singer to steal their name like he did when he went solo. While I still like solo Alice, 90% of what he sings today live on stage comes from what the band wrote, recorded, and made famous, as the truth of the matter is, while he has had few solo hit LPs, he has had few hit solo singles, too, and his biggest hits all came as the lead singer of the band Alice Cooper, and most of those songs weren't written by he, but by guitarist Michael Bruce, who was the true brains behind the AC band.

This video was made when the hit song "I'm 18" was first released in 1971, with the lyrics written by Cooper and Bruce, and with the entire band coming up with the music, which at first was a 8 minute jam…. I've said many times before that this song, with it great lyrics, was so true other than one thing – it’s really more about what 16 year olds go through and not as much as 18 year olds do, so therefore, it should have been titled and sang as "I'm 16" instead. But the song was loved by the fans of so many other sub-rock genres, from Punk Rockers (Johnny Rotten sang it for his audition with the Sex Pistols), to Classic Rockers, to Metal heads. The video catches the band as they really were, a close knitted band with great musicians who were full of energy.

As usual, there will be a link at the voting page so you can see this video before you vote. So to cast your vote in this week’s second Rock poll, just click there: Classic Rock Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 2” to vote on this question.

Now let’s look back at last week’s 2 Rock polls, starting with the first poll question that asked this: What is the best New-Age/World music Rock song?

Oh my goodness, this one couldn’t have been any closer… now I know I say that often enough, since that happens often enough with these polls, but really, last week was so damn close – for the entire week that it had to be one of the closest polls ever held in the last 20 years for our weekly polls…. The Top 10 finishers consist of 13 choices that sit in only 2 spots in the top 10, that being first – where we saw a 3 way tie for that spot, and then the next 10 songs all tied for what would be 4th place – yes, 10 songs in 4th place and 15 more songs had only one or 2 less votes than the 10 4th place songs received.

Yes, crazy close indeed, with the 3 songs that tied for first being “Gomper” by Rolling Stones, “Instant Karma” by John Lennon, and “Within You Without You” by The Beatles, and all receiving 3.5% of the vote. Yes, we will in a few weeks’ time have a run-off tie breaker poll for those 3 songs to see which one comes out on top. So no real answer to this poll’s question until then.

To see the rest of the Top 10 and the entire final results, just go here: Classic Rock Poll 1, week 692. Or to view the Top 10 results only from this poll at our list page, you can do so by clicking here: Top Ten Lists, Page, 16. The results will be found on the bottom of the page.

Looking back at last week’s Video Rock poll, the question asked: Rate the Monkees' official music video for “I'm a Believer”

Well, last week we returned to voting the top pick a “10”, after not seeing that 2 weeks ago. Rock fans really did like the Monkees and their video last week didn’t see a single vote under a “5” rating. You can click here to view the final results: Classic Rock Poll 2, week 692. Or you can check out where the video ended up in the video poll standings by clicking here: Top Ten Lists, Page, 16, and it will be the second list you see on the page.

Okay, let’s close up this week’s Poll Post by looking at the Beatles poll, where we enter week 444 of polling, and the new question is: Which Beatles song that challenged authority, is best?

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When you head over to the voting page, you may be surprised that there are just 4 songs listed to vote for! While many think of the Beatles as a band that was anti-authoritarian, that really wasn't true at all. Yes, 3 of the 4 Beatles were true hardnosed hippies (Ringo of course was far from being one, other than for his '60s long hair looks), but other than that, only John and George were somewhat antiauthority. Plus Lennon didn't really get into that FT until after the Beatles broke up. So while in the group, yes, there were only 4 such songs released, 2 written by George and 2 by John, and in John's case, the 2 songs were actually the same song - lyrics wise anyway. "Revolution" and "Revolution 1" had exactly the same lyrics other than for one line - be it, the extra word - that showed up in the lyrics to "Revolution 1", did made that one line about as radical as anything he ever wrote before! Those lyrics while in “Revolution" sounded tame: "But when you talk about destruction, don't you know that you can count me out!"… In "Revolution 1" the line had that one extra word added to it that totally changed what was being said: "But when you talk about destruction, don't you know that you can count me out - in!". The hippie in Lennon removed the word "in" from “Revolution" while the Yippie in Lennon kept it in "Revolution 1", which would of course made sense, as late '60s hippies were 100% for peace and love while the late '60s Yippies, while not having a problem with those who wanted peace and love - wanted to cause chaos and overthrown the government with whatever means possible, including using violence, and of course some of them actually took that violent path and weren't just talking for the heck of making noise (Just remember "the Weathermen", aka "The Weather Underground Organization", and what they did with their own bombs... but do note/remember, the Weathermen weren’t 100% Yippies, just more radical off-shoots of them). But being a Yippie was the main reason the pig, Dick Nixon, wanted Lennon kicked out of the country, not that John ever hurt anybody himself, but his friends, who were the leaders of the Yippies (Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin) of course were later on killed by the U.S. government (oh yes they were!) and which at least lead some to believe that Lennon's killing in 1980 was all connected to the U.S. government, too (now that one I don’t believe, but then again, you never know 100% for sure).

So while Lennon was of course a peaceful person who never hurt anybody other than maybe himself with his own words, George of course always took a 100% peaceful, religious approach to his actions, although he too was almost killed in his own home one night by an intruder (talk about a covered-up story, most never knew about this when it happened, and George easily could have been killed that night if not for the actions of his wife and there being 2 of them and only one intruder). But was that really just a crazy man breaking into his home or was there more to that attack?

But getting back to the poll question, Paul of course did write a few protest songs too - but not while in the Beatles, and the only protest song that Ringo ever wrote was his protest song against Paul, when he took John's side (along with George) in that fight that John and Paul had after the band broke up. Of course in true Ringo fashion, years later after Paul and John made up; Ringo denied that "Back Off Boogaloo" was written about Paul, but everybody and their dog knew better, after all "Boogaloo" was Paul's nickname in the group and he clearly took John's side in the feud. Ringo claim years later that the song was about the late Marc Bolan, the lead singer/guitarist for T-Rex, who Ringo gave the same nickname to after his death.

Now some more interesting things with these 4 songs… With Lennon's "Revolution" and "Revolution 1", while the lyrics were totally the same minus that one word (although yes, there were extra backing vocals sung in "Revolution 1" too [but yet no extra lyrics]), the music to the 2 songs were totally different, with "Revolution 1" a very slow and mellow song and "Revolution" an Acid Rock - Heavy Metal song (there wasn't any Heavy Metal genre around yet, but yes, heavy metal was just starting to happen and take shape in music - and called "Acid Rock" around this time), with the acid lead electric guitar played by Lennon, while on the much slower "Revolution 1", Harrison played the lead on acoustic guitar.

Another note on all of this, by the time the Beatles made the video for "Revolution", John was once again singing "in!" for that lyrics that he had removed from the recorded fast version of the song, and yes, some - but not all of the extra backing vocals (sung by George and Paul) - were back in the video of "Revolution" while not heard in the studio version of it. Oh, and one last thing on this that perhaps only hardnosed Beatle fans noticed, was that boisterous scream heard at the very beginning of "Revolution", was sung by John – but in the video is sung by Paul instead, since John couldn’t recover from shouting out the scream and then immediately start to sing the lead in his normal voice, so for the video, Paul sung that part.

George's 2 songs in this poll were clearly more radical than John's - even with that one word of John's included. "Taxman" was of course a direct putdown if the UK's government and their leaders while flat out naming them in the song "Don't ask me what I want it for - Taxman Mr. Wilson!... If you don't want to pay some more - Taxman Mr Heath!.. with "Mr Wilson" being Harold Wilson and "Mr Heath" being Edward Heath; Wilson was the leader of the Labour Party and the Prime Minster, while Heath was the leader of the Conservative Party - the two largest parties in British politics.

Harrison’s other song, "Piggies", first written in 1966 but not released until '68, was of course very anti-establishment and about corrupt people who held power over everybody else - and not only about policemen (but the word "pig" by '68 was solely applied to the police in the U.S. after the song's lyrics were leaked before the song was released). So the song was mainly where calling cops "pigs" came from - even if it wasn't George's doing to be only about cops, and in time "pigs" was used to call anybody who were corrupt. The song's lyrics "Have you seen the bigger piggies in their starched white shirts? " referred to tie wearing businessmen (and again, not to the police) who headed the big companies and wore such clothing everyday... kinda like now, other than the shirts usually aren't starched anymore - but still white often enough.

One last note, yes, I already know 98% of you known the difference between "Revolution 1" and “Revolution" - as far as to which one is the fast one and which one is the slow one. But because there are always a handful of voters who get the 2 mixed up, for them I do note at the voting page which one is the fast version and which one is the slow take of the song…. Now to finally vote in this week’s Beatle poll, just click here: Beatles Weekly Poll

In last week’s Beatle poll….the question asked was: ”Martha My Dear” vs “Jet”. Which Paul McCartney song written in part about his dogs, is better?

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Another very close one, so close that the top pick won by a single vote! To see which song that was, just go here: Beatles Weekly Poll – week 443. Or to see the final results on the Beatles Miscellaneous List Page, click on: Beatles Miscellaneous List Page for the results.

So that takes care of another Poll Post!... I thank all of you for voting in all of our polls, especially those of you who vote all the time- year round!

Keno

• Poll Post for the week starting Monday, Sept 30 by Keno on 9/29/2019 10:48:06 PM <-- You Are Here

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