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Subject: Till the Next Goodbye/IORR/ER/Penny Lane/and Dylan
Date: Monday, November 13, 2017
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Till the Next Goodbye/IORR/ER/Penny Lane/and Dylan

Time to get this week’s poll post underway, and for the very first time, all 3 of our main weekly polls for the Stones, Beatles and Classic Rock, will run and be about rock music videos. With that noted, this week's first Stones poll question, which enters week 955, will ask this: Rate the Rolling Stones video for 'Till The Next Goodbye' (Click here for the video).

This song was entirely written by the 2 Mick's in 1974, yes, a 100% Jagger/Taylor composition, but thanks to that terrible rule that the Glimmers go by, well that stupid rule took hold here once again and Taylor didn't get any writing credited (just like Brian and Bill before him), while Keith, who only sang backing vocals on the song, got the credit instead for basically doing almost nothing at all on the song. Keith didn't even play any guitar on this one, as Jagger filled in and played the guitar part for him, after Keith was too drugged out to play and didn’t show up for the session. Some point to this song, after the same deal happened to MT on a few other songs he helped write since he joined the band and on which he also wasn’t credited for, as the last straw for him, and in time lead to his deciding to leave the band because of this unfair Glimmer rule.

Getting to the video, this one was still being called an "Official Promo" by the Stones when it was made, as it was made when true modern day videos for bands were just starting to happen, but still weren't called videos just yet. But it was made like the 2 JJF film clips were made a few years before (in ’68), where one might think the band was called "Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones". While we do see the entire band more often than we did in last week's video of JJF, we only see them from afar in this one, other than Jagger of course, who was the only one featured here and the only one that all of the close-up shots were taken of. We see no close-ups at all of the others, and we can hardly even make out the other band member’s faces, since they are only shown in the background, but yes, you still know for sure who is who anyway.

This is a great and much underrated Stones song, and its video is what we now will vote on, but again don’t forget, we are voting on the entire video, not just the tune. The video is linked to from the voting booth, so you can and should watch it before you vote, to help to refresh your memory of it. The link to the video can also be found here in this thread (above).

So how will you rate this official video? To do so, just click on: Stones Weekly Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 1” to vote on this question.

The second Stones poll is where we run the Stones album VS matchups, and this week's question asks: It's Only Rock 'n Roll vs Emotional Rescue, which album do you like the best?


The "It's Only a Rock 'n Roll Poll", Polls, return to the album vs album series this week. Featuring the LP It's Only Rock 'n Roll, which has a winning record in the Stones album standings of 10-6-1, good for a Top 10 spot at #9. It goes up this week against Emotional Rescue, which is having a much harder time in these battles, with only a 2-12 record and just 3 spots from the very bottom of the standings.

To see the song list for each album, for It's Only Rock 'n Roll, click here: IORR, and for Emotional Rescue, click on: ER

To cast your vote in this second Stones poll, just click on: Stones Weekly Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 2” to vote on this question.

At the first Stones poll last week we answered this question: Rate the Rolling Stones video for "Jumpin’ Jack Flash” (No makeup version only)

For whatever reasons that I will never totally understand, other than I agree that the song itself was great, most Stones fans seem to love this video a lot (along with the make-up one, too, but this one got a higher rating, at least as far as the percentage went), with 85.2% of the votes going to spots 8 thru 10, with a “10” being the top pick. Only 0.2% of the votes went for a pick below “6”. To me, my fellow fans totally overrated this one, as the direction sucked big time, IMO.

To see the full final results from this poll, click onStones Weekly Poll - week 954, poll 1. The top results from this poll will also show up at the Stones’ Fans Top Picks, page 2 , along with the other videos that we have voted on in the last 2 years, so you can compare the video’s outcomes there, along with direct links to each video that we voted on, in case you want to view them again.

Looking back at last week’s second Stones poll, the question was: Voodoo Lounge vs Beggars Banquet, which album do you like the best?


This one wasn’t close at all, as we saw a big blowout win for BB. To see the final results, just click here:Stones Weekly Poll - week 954, poll 2. Plus, I’ll add the results from this poll to the standings at the Stones VS Page 1, where at the top of the page you can check out the updated standings on how each album has done in these long running VS polls.

Over at the Classic Rock Poll we enter poll week 595, and just like as we do at the Stones poll, we vote in 2 poll questions a week in this one too. The first poll’s question this week asks this: Rate the Bob Dylan video for “Subterranean Homesick Blues”

I just had to start off these video Rock poll questions - which are brand new to the Rock poll, with Bob Dylan's "Subterranean Homesick Blues". Not only is this song looked at by most as the very first true rap/hip-hop song, but its video is looked at as the very first true rock video, and not so much as a promo film clip, as it actually was (and it was the first film video that showed and included the lyrics to the song being featured, to boot!).

Filmed outside in an alley close to the Savoy Hotel in London, where Dylan was staying while he was on tour, it shows him flipping que cards that contain some of the words to the song. The words on the cue cards were written up by Dylan, singer Donovan, beat poet Allen Ginsberg, and folk singer Bob Neuwirth, while in the video we see Neuwirth and Ginsberg standing in the street behind Dylan talking. But not all of the cards had the correct lyrics, and they included deliberate misspellings of words on some of them (as you may have noticed in the above photo). Some people didn't get this video at the time, and didn't care for this, but anybody hip, flat out loved it!

So how will you rate this video? Please note, that just like at the Stones video poll, remember before voting, that it’s the entire video we are voting on here, and not just the song/music. This video is also linked to from the voting booth, so you can watch it before you vote. Make sure to take the time to watch the video before you vote, to refresh your memory of it. To cast your rating in this poll, click here: Classic Rock Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 1” to vote on this question.

At the second Rock poll this week, known better as the Rock VS poll, we will vote on this question: “Paul McCartney vs Bill Wyman, who is the better bassist?


The second week asking this line of questioning, and for this week's poll, do notice that singing has nothing at all to do at all with the question, nor the ability that they both have in being able to play several different instruments. The only instrument we are interested in and looking at, is the main one that they both play, and of course, that's the bass guitar. Both were and still are today, amongst the very best rock bassists ever, and personally, I rate both of them in the Top 5 bassists of all time, well – really the top 3 of all time. But, which one of the 2 was better paying bass overall IYO?,

Now yes, just like with last week's question about Ringo and Charlie, this is not just limited to their bass playing in the Beatles and in the Stones, but their solo work can count, too.

To cast your vote on this simple question and vote for the better of the 2 bassists, just click on Classic Rock Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 2” to vote on this question.

In last week’s first Rock poll, we asked: Of the fictitious bands with a hit song, which song was the best?

“Last Train to Clarksville” by The Monkees, who of course in time became a real band, was the top pick, receiving 13.6% of the first place votes. “Soul Man” by Blues Brothers (another TV made group that became a real band too, was the second choice pick with 12.5% of the vote, and in third was “Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye” by Steam, which saw 12.4% of the vote.

To see the full final results from this poll, just click here: Classic Rock Poll 1, week 594. To see the Top 10 list from this poll only, and other top 10 listings from our past rock polls, go here: Top Ten Lists, Page, 14

In last week’s VS Rock poll, we answered this question: Charlie Watts vs Ringo Starr, who is the better drummer?


Charlie Watts won and it really wasn’t that close of a vote. To see by how much he beat Ringo by, just click here: Rock Poll 2, week 594 You can also check out the final results at the VS Classic poll results page 2, at the Classic Rock site, by clicking here: VS Page 2, List Page 10. Plus no, I still didn’t get around to building that new list page that I promised to do for 3 weeks in a row now. So I’ll stop promising that I’ll do that and just maybe before next weekend it will actually be done. But please, don’t hold your breath on this either; as when I get to it, will be when I get to it.

We close out this poll post as usual with the Beatles poll, where we enter week 348 and ask this question: Rate the Beatles official video "Penny Lane" (Click here for the video)

Written by Paul McCartney, the song, along with "Strawberry Fields Forever" (written by John Lennon), were 2 tunes that were inspired by the band's youth and their growing up in Liverpool, England. Both tunes were supposed to be on the Sgt. Pepper's LP, but neither of them ever made it onto the album after the band's record company got in the way and demanded that they be released immediately as a double A side single instead, a full 3 months before the LP's release.

"Penny Lane" was written with lyrics about a busy street in Liverpool, and went on to #1 in many countries, including the U.S, but only saw the #2 spot in the UK. For the video, I can clearly recall the cold snowy NY day in early 1967 when it was to premier on TV that night. All us kids were so excited for the night to arrive, and talking about the Beatles finally being on TV again, as the great Beatles hadn't been seen for months on end and we all couldn’t wait to hear and see their new song that night. We weren’t disappointed when show time came around, either, just very surprised at what we saw. Oh yes, for this was the first time fans of the band, saw the Beatles, all 4 of them, with facial hair (nobody had facial hair in ‘67, nobody (well, not yet!), plus Lennon was wearing glasses (!), and he wasn't wearing the kind of glasses anybody in 1967 were wearing. either – again, not yet, anyway. He was shown wearing both wire rimmed shades, along with granny glasses, the kind you saw in pictures of people from long ago wearing, like the kind Ben Franklin of all people wore, and he looked so different than ever with his newly grown super long sideburns along with a new long mustache, too, to go along with these new wire framed glasses. Lennon always had bad eyesight, but he never wore his glasses before in public, even though he was as blind as a bat without them. He finally decided to start wearing glasses when he found a pair he liked. Well, all of his fans seemed to like them too, and within months after that, most all of the baby boomers who also had to wear glasses, changed from their thick framed modern day glasses, to wearing these very old fashioned looking glasses, which people were now calling "Lennon Glasses" (even though the Byrds' Roger McGuinn was actually the first rocker to wear them - before Lennon did). You also, after this video was released, started to see for the first time in decades, young men growing mustaches, with some even growing out their beards, too!.... All of this to the horror of the totally clean-cut and clean shaven WW2 generation who totally hated the look. Long hair on men was bad enough and too much for their generation to take, and now this too?! Although the skinny granny glasses only stayed in fashion for a year or 2, wire framed glasses were now pretty much here to stay after this and nobody wore thick frames again, not until they became cool again decades later when rappers started to wear them again.

So how the band looked in this new film clip was actually more talked about than the great music playing on the song. But no question, the new song was great and the clip was fun to watch indeed, after all, this was almost 20 years before MTV hit the airwaves, and seeing the Beatles or any rock band on TV was something special for sure!

But just how special was it? How will you rate this one? Now just like at the Stones and Rock video polls, remember before voting, that it’s the entire video we are voting on here, and not just the song/music. The video is linked to from the voting booth, so you can watch it before you vote. Make sure to take the time to watch the video before you vote, to refresh your memory of it. The link to the video can also be found here in this thread (above).

To vote in this poll and rate this official video for this song, please go here: Beatles Weekly Poll.

In last week's Beatles poll we asked: Rate the Beatles official video "Hey Jude" (Click here for the video)

Yet another very well loved video indeed! I noted how loved the Stones JJF video was after it was voted on last week, well this one was even more so loved, as 98.3% voted for giving it a rating of “8” or higher, with “10” being voted the top pick. To see the final results, just go there: Beatles Weekly Poll – week 347. Or, you can check out the final results at the: Beatles Video and Movie page, which is located at the domain’s Lennon Site.

Well that does it for yet another week’s poll post!... On a side note, I have decided to re-rate all of the Stones albums’ songs here at the domain, since I hadn’t done it in about 10 years or so…. Plus I also just wrote up a new album review for the Beatles first LP over at the Classic Rock site. It’s the first time in about 2 years at least since I last wrote a review over there, and I plan to finally finish reviewing the rest of the 3 Fab LPs that I haven’t reviewed yet, hopefully in the next few weeks, since I got the time to do that now (I think).

As always, I thank all of you who take the time each week to vote in our 5 weekly polls!


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