Posted by hhall on July 29, 1999 at 19:51:28:
In Reply to: Re: Re: "Shattered" and The Stones on the Cutting Edge posted by N. Kane on July 29, 1999 at 12:21:51:
: NY Chip, you are wrong on this one man, I don't think that's what the original post is saying- to deny the influence of rap or NYC street music in 1978 is silly.
: : "Shattered" is in no way shape or form a rap song. Would "Slave" from Tattoo You be one as well? I wouldn't think so. Try telling a rap fan that.
Actually, I saw a really antique video on MTV that had a black guy called Grand Flashmaster or Funkmaster or something like that. He was doing a rap song about New York City. It sounded so much like "Shattered" that I was wondering who influenced whom. His was a real rap song that was a serious minded protest. I don't know what year his video was. Would anyone on this board know when rap started?(His song wasn't as good as Shattered and I hate rap.)
I think there was something called "talking blues" before there was rap. Same concept.
You might call Satisfaction a sort of rap song. With riffs. Also, Dylan's "Subterranean Homesick Blues" and John Lennon's "everybody's talking about Fagism...etc. song."
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