Gasland/Let It Loose
- Salt of the Earth -
A
Keef Urban Legend
by Gimme Shelter
(April 2005)
I just read the bio on Keef at of
all places imdb.com and there was something in there that kinda shocked me and further
solidified my theory as Keef being Indestructible. Anyway apparently in the 70's Keef was
awake for 9 days straight and when he finally fell asleep, he fell asleep standing up.
Which led to him falling over and breaking his nose on a amp. Anyway my point to this is
does anyone know more about this or is it pretty much straight drugs for those 9 days.
If its true, it's probably all
drugs. I know I have read that some other place, though (and not IMDb), so it wouldn't
surprise me if it was true.
I think I remember reading that in
Bill's book also. Or maybe it was just a quote of Keith refering to it when talking with
an interviewer, something along the lines of "Do you have any idea what it's like to
stay awake for 9 (?) days? Time turns itself inside out." Apologies for any grose
mistakes in that!
it is not physically possible to
stay awake for nine days. your brain would shut down and you would most likely be dead
after like 6 days. nine days is outside the realm of possibility, even for a demigod like
keith.
I've seen people go that long on
speed... Their psycho and boardering on psychosis, but 9 days is not impossible. the other
part about him passing out and bsuting his nose, I'm not sure if I get it, Keith was into
heroin as we know and lots of coke, but you would need tons of speed for a 9 day bender...
Just an FYI, you don't sleep well on heroin, you nod out in a dream like state and slip in
and out of semi consciousness, but it's not sleep. I'm thinking Keith just nodded out and
fell over, I've seen the local dope fiends do the great standing nod, it's a thing of
beauty, it really is. feet on the ground and back bent so the person is in the shape of an
"n" almost. Seen a few go down, but most recover before the fall.
Keith claimed himself that he went
nine days once. At another time he claimed that he fell asleep standing up in the control
room of a studio, and fell into a speaker and broke his nose. I don't think it was the
same time as when he went nine days. And Keith does exaggerate some things and plain make
some other things up. For instance, he claims when he first met Muddy Waters, he was
painting the ceiling at Chess Studios for money because he wasn't selling records at the
time. Marshall Chess insists Muddy never did handiwork at Chess.
don't think you should take what
keith say's as gospel..
i don't think he said 9 days...it
was i was up for a week..
he and anita used to do that a lot
back in the day...
mick taylor, bill wyman and others
hated that.. when keith would crash he sleep for a week too..remember when he was busted
in
that was keith... he even stay up
for days with brian jones playing guitar in the early 60's without sleep..
he worked hard played hard...but who
cares if it was 9 days or 6 days or 3 days..he doesn't care!
on his point about m.waters...
again, all he was saying is that he was doing nothing..he was right..the black artist were
ripped off left and right and because they weren't given the money that was owed to then a
lot had to work at any job to bring in a pay check... so keith point was hear is this god
painting ceilings or carring out our bags...look at johnnie johnson..never paid
much..etc..plus many of them couldn't read so their old record companies never even paid
them for their past records.. or if they couldn't find them they would pocket the
money..today, after a court case, they have to hold the money till they can be located..
p.s. the rolling stones and the
beatles, helped turn around the fortunes of many of these poor black
singers/songwriter..it was just that the stones still help them and keep their music
alive!
give keith a break...none of us
could do what he has done and still is doing..and he is over 60!
I read an article about a guy who
had been doing speed in order to keep up with his work, he said he'd more or less been
awake for 30 days or so. I find it hard to imagine 9 days would be impossible.
Anybody who claims they stayed up
for 30 days is full of shit, it can't be done even with drugs. Nine days, I'm not sure,
maybe, you would have to ask a doctor if doing speed could keep you going that long. I
myself stayed awake once for three days with no sleep at all - and no drugs, either. I
don't think I could have made it to a fourth day, but with drugs I could see one doubling
that. But shit, even going 2 days with no sleep is bad for your body. A few years ago I
was into doing that once a month, but no more.
When I was doing drugs I pulled a
few 3 or 4 days w/o sleep, not much more. That always fucked me up bad. Speed is really
bad shit. Next to alcohol and nicotine it may be one of the worst things you can put into
your body. At least booze if not abused isn't so bad. I've met, and believe many people
who've claimed to go a week or more, i beleive them. It's not like they were trying to
impress me, it was just simple matter of fact shit. Nowadays, I miss a few hours of sleep
and I'm a mess...
Keith mentioned that in an
interview. Anything's possible however unlikely with the stuff they were doing back then.
He's still ticking...
Five Things I
Love About The Stones
By Tommy
1: WYMAN’S BASS-PLAYING ON
“SUMMER ROMANCE”: Of all Wyman’s great bass-playing, this is the one that
kills me every time. He does nothing like a traditional bass player on this track. During
the verses, instead of playing along with the kick drum, he plays along with the snare,
creating an off-beat tension. On the choruses, when a normal bass player would “put
the hammer down” and “rock out”, instead Bill hits one simple note, and
lets it die out, then plays a curly-cue of fills as Charlie brilliantly doubles up on the
kick drum, creating more tension and release than he would have otherwise. The song is
practically a museum of beautiful off-beat Wyman fills and runs. He almost never plays the
same thing twice; it’s one understated, off-the-cuff, fill after another. You can
almost see Bill stifling a yawn, holding his bass neck straight up in the air, as he
casually tosses off brilliance with the diffidence of a man who’s forgotten more
about three-chord rock than most musicians ever learn.
2: BRIAN JONES: Brian was the first
bottleneck blues guitarist in England EVER. No less an authority than Alexis Korner said
so. Bottleneck blues guitar didn’t exist in
3: KEITH AND RONNIE ON
“RESPECTABLE”: It wasn’t until I was a college junior, listening with
headphones to this track for the first time, that I realized that the lead guitar in the
intro wasn’t one guitar, but two! Ronnie (I think) plays a two-note sting first, then
Keith (I think) finishes the phrase for him with a cluster of notes that epitomizes the
idea of four hands/one guitar. This is beyond “weaving” and qualifies as sheer
telepathy. It’s a miraculous moment.
4: MICK JAGGER: About ten months
ago, I had an interesting opportunity to see what it feels like to try and be Mick Jagger
for five minutes. We have a band in
5: CHARLIE WATTS ON
“NEIGHBORS”: If you’ve ever heard the bootleg basic track of
“Neighbors”, you know that everybody comes in playing from the get-go, quite
loudly and messily too. Bob Clearmountain (or whoever mixed it), wisely stripped it down
and let’s the instruments come in one at a time, and that lets us focus on the simple
brilliance of Charlie. How can one man play a part so simple and make it so catchy? His
kick drum work is such a wonder. He’ll just lay a solid beat down and, every now and
then, sneak in an extra kick drum beat that just pushes the song so rightly that it makes
your butt want to shake and your head want to bob.
And just as a person, from what
we’ve seen of him, he’s a marvelous example of a true human being. There is a
Biblical admonition: “He who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles
himself will be exalted.” That’s Charlie, the man who never sought the
spotlight, never cared for fame, never shagged a groupie and somehow winds up getting the
biggest ovation from the audience every night when the band is introduced.
And that’s five things I love
about the Stones. What’s your five?
Gladly...
1. EXILE ON MAIN STREET Simply the
greatest mess of a rock and roll album ever made. If SGT PEPPER is the sound of a great
studio album, the EXILE is the sound of a great rock and roll band recorded in a studio.
2. LOVING CUP Perhaps one of their
finest songs, and one so often overlooked by casual fans.
3. LONGEVITY...Year after year,
people crack jokes, moan about ticket prices, and bitch about the Stones. A lot of it is
well deserved. The Stones go overboard with a lot of the props and staging. But you know
what? In spite of all this, whenever they get out on the killing floor, whether it's in a
club or stadium, they still deliver the goods like no one else.
4. KEITH RICHARDS..the face of rock
and roll, warts and all. Never did like my rock stars air brushed.
5. CHARLIE WATTS. To say anything
else would not do the man justice.
Five things I like about the Stones;
1. The Glimmer Twins; never ever
will you find a better song writing team than Jagger/ Richards; not Lennon/ McCartney, not
leiber/ Stoller, not Rodgers/ Hart. True they have written lots of throwaways but also
lots of gems. Lyrically the songs are always interesting and the music has an organic
rhythm and propulsion that makes a medicore Stones song listenable. Also combined they
exude a perfect balance of cynicism/ boyish charm and decadent sleaze/ consummate
professionalism. They have weathered storm after storm for 44+ years and show no sign of
letting up.
2. Mick Jagger. True he screeches
sometimes, true his falsetto takes some getting used to, true his accent oozes out thickly
sometimes but no one in rock music can convey the sublety, nuance and sophistication or
emotion without ever sounding corny or trite or phony or effete. Furthermore his persona
is one of a kind. I can honestly say that the Mick of 1969-89 is the only man that I have
ever felt is sexy. It looks wierd to put that in type but it's true.
3. Keith Richards The man should be
dead or in prison yet he goes on and on. His guitar sound says F*** You with every chord.
He brought Chuck Berry tempos and drive to Brian Jone's blues band. Later he dragged the
band through Country and Reggae all for good effect.Keith IS Rock and Roll.
4.Charlie Watts. The Rock, the very
substratum upon which the Stones are built, anunfazeable human metronome.
5. Everything else about them; Mick
Taylor's world class blues rock guitar,Brian Jone's musical genius, their albums, singles
and movies,the Tongue and Lips Logo, their fans,the bootlegs, the memorabilia, the books
written about them, the fan websites and the whole aura surrounding it all.
Turner
As always Tommy, you post is an
excellent read. I especially liked your thoughts on Brian. I don't have the time now to go
into detail on 5 things I love about The Stones, so I'll just list them.
1. Mick Talyor's guitar work on
Brown Sugar from the
2. Udercover Of The Night - The last
Stones masterpiece. They successfully update their sound for the 80's MTV crowd. I know
Mick always wants The Stones to have a current, contemporary sound, but this was the last
time I felt they were totally in synch with the times. You can put on Duran Duran
(whatever you think of them, they were friggin' huge at the time) right after this song
and not skip a beat. They turned 40 right after making this record, coincidence?
3. Still Life - My favorite Stones
live album. Ya Ya's is just a little too doctored, and LYL is really lazy minus the
incredible Mocambo tracks. Still Life sounds great and I still play it even though I have
several boots from the tour. I like the economy of the track listing, and I think the
choices were gutsy. It's just a really fun record that livens up any party.
4. Marianne Faithfull!!!!!!!!!
5. Not leaving Stanley Booth behind
on the helicopter out of
RE: Bill, FPM & Brian
>WYMAN’S BASS-PLAYING ON
“SUMMER ROMANCE”:
You know, I never paid attention to
that song to really hear Bill, now I'll have to dig out the album it's on to see what you
mean. I would not mind knowing what our Monkey Man (the flea bitten one) thinks of it,
since he is as true a stones fans as anybody here, he plays bass, and he don't dig Bill
too much.
>2: BRIAN JONES...........The
bottleneck slide on “No Expectations” is the sound of a broken heart......
Very cool on what you wrote here
about BJ and the song NE. Last week I was playing a boot from the Beggars sessions and on
one take of “No Expectations”, BJ added an extra tang to the slide that I wished
they had used on the final cut. But still, yes, was a great bluesy slide!
Exile fan
For me, it's hard to break it up
into 5 things because when I think about why I like them, it all comes down to them being
different (but better) than all other rock bands in the history of rock. I'll try my best
to break it up so you can see my point.
1. Mick Jagger. Different because no
one has energy like him. Also, I've seen a lot of bands perform songs live, (not actually
live just on video) and many of the singers just stand there or if they do move around,
they end up doing something stupid or corny. But when Mick Jagger does something on stage,
it always seems cool. Also, I am a completely heterosexual guy but sometimes you just have
to admit that he IS sexy.
2. Keith Richards. Before I had ever
listened to the stones, most everyone's modern rock guitar sounded the same, just a
screeching, distorted heavy metal sound. And I thought that was what a rock guitar sounded
like and I never thought anything more of it. When I started to listen to classic rock it
sounded only a little different. Then when I first heard Keith's guitar, it opened my eyes
to a whole new dimension of guitar, which changed my view on how it can sound, and how it
can be played. I still get an adrenaline rush when I hear the opening few seconds of
Satisfaction, Brown Sugar, Angie, and Start Me Up.
3. Charlie Watts. Different because
he converted from a jazz drummer to a rock superstar. He was probably the only one to ever
do that, and probably the only one that ever will. His jazz roots are what make him so
good. Enough said.
4. Mick
5. The stones' music cannot be
labeled as alternative rock, progressive rock, indie rock, folk rock, country rock, punk
rock, pop rock or anything else except simply Rock 'N' Roll.
Undercover
1. They got me through my adolesence
identity vs identity diffusion thing. I knew who I was, a Stones fan.
2. They let me know I would not find
that perfect love, that I dreamed about that I read about. This helped me lower my
expectations so I could deal with girls as a reality, not a fantasy.
3. They let me know life just gets
harder and harder... And gave me the tools to deal with it...sweet cousin cocaine and
sister morphine (a long time ago) Now I know we are always suffering... and can deal with
it. Let me shout out "whew!" with 80,000 people
4. They helped my put all these
things together and develop a personality that if not exactly defiant, was able to take
the ups and downs with a sort of calm. Helped me form the jaded don't give a fuck attitude
of a true rock and roller.
5. Sang "Under My thumb"
and "Time is on my Side" when I was a kid and girls were breaking my heart. Gave
me confidence when I needed it. Sometimes I'm sexy, move like a stud, Kicking the stall
all night, Sometimes I'm so shy, got to be worked on, Don't have no bark or bite, alright.
Hey girls, what you doin' tonight?
Now do you want to dance, or do you want to bite?
6. Now as an adult I can say I lived
the life. I can see objectively...we all need someone to lean on,
burnout
I can't pinpoint 5 things, that's
just impossible to me. But I have to say music keeps me alive, without it I would be
totally insane and surely would have committed hari kari by now! And, with all the music I
love, I do love the Stones the most! I can entertain myself playing Stones songs all day,
actually I do quite often, they make me want to get my guitar and say to myself...what did
keef or brian or mick T or Ronnie or Mick do right there...was it this or was it that or
just what was it, and usually I get pretty close and I'm in my own little Stones nirvana
for a while. They just make me happy, pardon the pun, I don't know any other way to put
it, they just make me feel GOOD! And I like that, love it, yes I DO! They just make GREAT
MUSIC! Pure and simple, that's it, they make great music! The blues roots are always there
too, incorporated in their sound, most great modern music has blues influence whether
anyone realizes it or not. But guess what, I bet Mick and Keef realize it!
KilledB4Bombay
1. THE WEAVE. When Keith and Ronnie
have it going, it's going. Best example of this, IMO, is on Miss You from
2. COUNTRY SONGS. They do country
better than country artists. Country Honk, Sweet
3. CHARLIE. The human metronome. In
the end, its all about the beat.
4. SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL. I've said
it before. The crowning acheivment of western civilization, not limited to music.
5. SURVIVORS. They are the ultimate
survivors, have been through it all and are still the greatest rock and roll band in the
world.
LoveYouLive
<<What’s your
five?>>
If it is just love and not any
ranking or order, here goes:
Let It Bleed - It is my favorite
album from the 60's. Some days, I really love Beggars Banquet... but I always come back to
Let It Bleed. I absolutely love Monkey Man, YCAGWYW, Gimme Shelter and Let It Bleed. I
also like Country Honk, but HTW is my favorite Stones song period. Never been a big fan of
Rambler, however I have grown to appreciate it much more when it is done live.
Sticky Fingers - It is my favorite
Stones album and my favorite album from the 70's. Sorry to disappoint all you Exile fans
but this album is solid... begin to end. There isn't a weak song on this album, so I won't
even listed my favorites. They are all that good!
Tattoo You - It is my favorite album
from the 80's and a good all around album. Yes I know it has many left-overs from earlier
sessions in the 70's. However, I remember when the album came out and I was very proud to
be a Stones fan at that time. I really like all the songs on the album, but the highlights
are Start Me Up, Little T&A, Neighbors and Waiting on a Friend. I was very impressed
with the live version of Neighbors I heard from the b-stage during the Licks tour. They
need to consider doing a few more songs from this album during this up coming tour.
Stripped - It is my favorite Stones
live album. And they have a few really good ones. I consider this one the best. Yes, I
know Ya Ya's is the popular favorite and for years this would have been my selection. But
I love how alive this album is. Solid in my opinion.
Four Flicks DVD - This is a great
offering from the Licks Tour. How nice to have a great selection of all the types of
venues they visited. I especially like some of the shows or songs I was actually present
for. My favorite show of the three is actually the Twickenham show. This wasn't the show I
caught, but I think it is the best of the bunch. The MSG show is special because I was
there. As good as it is, you really had to be in the building to full appreciate that
night's performance. I love the club show and the song selection, unfortunately it isn't
my favorite because of the jumpy camera/shot selection during the first half of that show.
Still it is all great stuff and well worth the $30.
So much to love.
1. I love the way the stones back up
vocals are. Their Doo Doo's and Who WHo's. I also love the way Keith and Ron sing slightly
off time from one another and slightly out of key. In such songs as Tie You Up, Start Me
Up, and Send It Too Me as primes examples, kinda drawly. Also their repatative almost like
chanting like Dancin' Dancin' in Dancing With Mr. D.
2. Mick Jagger the way he just
oooozes sleaze and grit (watch Miss You on LSTNT to see what I mean) and the way he can
sound so butch on songs like Bitch and then singing something like Beast Of Burden. His
energy and professionalism.
3. There love for music and how that
transcends over to the audience, I remember when I saw the stones in
4. There diversity and ability to
make authentic music songs as well as be VERY tongue and Cheek.
5. Charlie Watts
ginsoaked
here's what i love about the stones'
music:
laughter, joy, and lonliness, and
sex and sex and sex and sex
Mick T in
KC
by Stray Cat
I arrived at the Grand Emporium around
About halfway through the opening act Mick walked right by our table with some of his entourage and to a room in the back of the club. I could have reached over and touched him but just said "Hi MIck" as did everyone else. He did not say anything back to us though.
Mick and his All-Star band hit the stage at a relatively early
As I said at the start, we had a table up in the first row. People did stand at the front of the stage but it wasn't to crowded so I could see MT perfectly all night. I did move up and stood right at the front of the stage for the last song and encore.
After the show, a roadie said he would sign autographs after taking a short rest in his bus, but 5 minutes later, he was outside his bus, winter coat on, standing in the parking lot signing anything you had. I had him sign my ticket stub and my brother had his GHS, IORR, and a MT album signed. He was very nice and gracious to us. We thanked him and he thanked us for coming. I told the keyboard player that I didn't realize how good MT really was. He said he didn't either and is amazed every night standing up there with him.
Go see this guy if you have a chance. It is well worth it for the $13 to $16 ticket price. As far as the debate between MT and Ronnie, there is none. MT wins hands down. I understand after seeing him the reason he left the Stones. The Stones probably restricted his playing unless they would have played songs like Love In Vain all night. He is a blues guitarist and thrives in the setting he has now. Mick is the greatest!!!!!
Mick T
by Ladybear
I just got home from the Mick Taylor concert, and what a show!
Mick played at the Buffalo Rose in Golden, Co, a small town west of
We arrived about
Keno, Colleena, and I lucked out in that I ran into a coworker of mine who had a table
right up front and let us share. Good old Al, and I had had no idea he was a fan!
Mick went on about
Due to alcohol and extreme excitement, I was unable to keep track of the setlist
precisely, but many great songs stand out in my mind. "Secret Affair" from the
new CD I absolutely loved, I really got into it. "You Gotta Move" was red-hot
and smoking! The long jam mid-set which showcased his band was cool and I must say he has
some very talented musicians working with him. I am impressed that he's not doing the
"Look at me I'm Mick Taylor and these other guys are here to back me up" Not at
all. Sadly I am horrible with names plus I don't hear very well in a crowd situation or I
would name them all. I do know the keyboard player is new and his name is Jeff Ross. His
guitar player is adorable, and he really let it rip on "You Shook Me".
One thing I spotted was that Mick kept putting his hand to his his forehead and eyes, and
looked like he wasn't feeling very good. You would have never noticed from his playing
that anything was wrong.
Dylan's "Blind Willie McTell" ended the show, and the crowd screamed and clapped
for the encore. C'mon Mick, you know we need it! And yes, he came back and gave us an
instrumental "Can't you hear me knocking" that I will remember all my life.
We waited patiently among the faithful, and I bought "A Stone's Throw" Cd. It
was interesting to see what other people had brought to be signed. I saw a 1969 Fillmore
poster that I would love to have. After about fifteen minutes, a roadie type guy comes out
and gives the crowd the bad news; Mick has a severe migraine and will not be signing
autographs. I am disappointed but not suprised, he really did look like he wasn't feeling
good. So although I didn't get to meet him, I got to watch him play from three feet away,
and took some photos which I hope turn out!
I was parked near the tour bus, and we saw Claude as we were leaving. We told him we heard
about Mick's migraine, and hoped he would be feeling better soon. He was, again, very
gracious and friendly and said the two day, straight- though drive from
Mick
Thank you Mick Taylor!!!
Mick T in
by Staffan
Finally I got to see Mick Taylor! My idol and hero... As some of you know, I met him a
year ago, but didn't hear him play due to the train home which left before the show
started.
The venue for this concert was like 150 miles away... But what the heck... if Staffan has
decided to do something, he always does it :-)
I and dad got to the venue about two hours before he got on stage. And we got the best
fuckin table!!!
Two meters from the stage!!!
Dad said: "Their equipment ain't impressive, look at those old amps..."
I laughed and said "It's tube amps, vintage tube amps"
Anyway, Mick got on stage at
So I could enjoy the music even more! He started with Secret affair after a cool intro.
But he didn't have a plectrum!!! How can he play like that without a pick?
And after that, Twisted sister, and I now I'm convinced that Mick Taylor is the best
guitarist that's been in the Stones (well, I've always knowed that... but it looks great
on the screen).
And after that a slow blues which accelerates, shit, I don't know the name of these songs,
but he and Max Middleton plays very well together. Possible name is "Everybody needs
somebody" cause he sings that pretty often. Or "Need some time" or
"You where such a fail attraction". And a fantastic solo and lots of wha-wha!
Well if anyone knows the name.. mail me!!
And then Goin' South. 20 minutes of solos, mostly from the other band members. I found the
drummer a bit boring, but Max and the bass player blew me away. During the others solos,
Mick took off his guitar, a sunburst Les Paul Classic and smoked and walked around the
stage :-) Well for all you guitar freaks, he had two amps, a Fender 2x12 and also a
Marshall 2x12, both combos of course.
And that was the first set, about 45 minutes long. Over to set two:
Starts off with YOU GOTTA MOVE, which he does very different from the Sticky Fingers of
course, but it's damned good. And 13 minutes long :-)
And then a quick change of MiniDisc in my recorder, and after You shook me,
a very jazzy tune, instrumental, says something like "
Great of course, but not really my cup of tea.
Then, a slow blues, with fantasticly great melodic solos... don't know the name of it
again.
A line, (or clue:-) "Lived this life in vain" NEED HELP!
And then Blind Willie McTell. Starts with Max and Taylor on slide guitar... soft, but
after two minutes the "hell breaks loose", well not quite... but the others join
in anyway :-)
It's followed by the classic You shook me, which is a fav of mine, and the guitar playing
is excellent, though the the zeppelin versions from 69 can't be beaten... although I
prefer
I was in heaven when a fav of mine, Boogie Man begun. Heavy!!!
And directly after that, part two of CAN'T YOU HEAR ME KNOCKING!!!!!!
It's 9 minutes..... I was in heaven.... who the fuck is Carlos Santana??
Mick
And an encore of course, Fed up with the blues... hoped for Red House :-(...
But Fed up with the blues the band does very nicely and groovy OF COURSE!
Well, the recording is excellent audience, though hardly any loud voices or disturbing
hand claps.
The only problem is that on a few songs, the mick vibrated, causing some very short
glitches.
But you can live with that. If you want it mail me, and if there's a lot of interest we
can make a CDr Tree maybe?
First Stones Memory
by
Stones
Memory. Share it with the board, if you will. I remember hearing 'Honky Tonk Women'for the
first time on the AM radio of my Dad's Olds back in '68 or '69. I remember
thinking,"THIS is actually fun music", as a 7 or 8 year old kid. Had never heard
anything that cool before during my youth up to that point.
I was
playing this game for the Playstation 2 with my dad called Twisted Metal Black, and before
the main menu comes on this weird riff comes through the speakers. My dad bobs his head to
it and says, "All right...the Rolling Stones." I asked him what it was and he
said, "Paint It, Black". Anyway, I found out that the entire song was played
during the game credits which you could watch anytime so I listened to the whole song from
there. I would just keep repeating it over and over again. Finally I decided to borrow my
brother's copy of Forty Licks and I listened to the song from there about 4 times. Then I
was about to take the disc out of the tray when I thought, "Ya know, I'll listen to
this next song...see what I think of it."
And the
rest is history.
Mine is
remarkably identicle to The K Man's. accept I was playing it with my brother and later he
stated it was a Rolling Stones song, so I checked it out on his Forty Licks and discovered
my new way of life.
Maybe
this makes me a freak but I don't have a clearly defined moment that I can point to and
say that was my 1st Stones experience and that I was transformed at that moment. As I have
alluded to in previous posts my father forbade me to listen to 'Rock Music' so really I
was at least ten before I heard any. Then it was mainly AM Top 40 stuff. I had a friend my
age who was far more musically advanced than me. I remember two albums of his;Jethro
Tull'Aqualung and Mott The Hoople 'All The Young Dudes'that stand out. He basically
initiated me into rock music. (He already had a Ludwig drum kit and was soon to be in a
band). I DO know that as long as I can remember the Stones have been there, for 30+ years
I know that when I turned on FM Radio they were there. I know that when I saw Apocalypse
Now and saw the cool water-skiing scene to Satisfaction I was already very familiar with
the song and tat around that time I bought 'Some Girls'. I have also mentioned that it is
only relatively recently that I went from fan to junky and I don't know what triggered
that exactly. All I know is that for a solid year I listen to, read about, talk about,
think about the Stones every single day and they have taken over a huge part of my psyche.
I seem
to remember hearing my brothers playing Satisfaction, Paint It Black, Ruby Tuesday ect
about the same years. I would have been 7 or 8 so I dont think I would remember music at
an earlier age. Then again, I bought Neil Youngs "After The Goldrush" when it
came out new believe it or not. I can remember listening to Sticky Fingers & Exile
with them.
I'm 28
now, so maybe I was 5 or 6 at the time. I was going somewhere with mommy listening to the
radio and she put her thumb on my leg.
I go
"What the heck are you doing, Mom?"
She
goes, "You're Under my Thumb."
Not
getting it I said "So what, I don't get it, big deal."
So she
told me it was the name of the song on the radio and that A band called the Rolling Stones
sang it.
So it
was our running joke for a number of years while we were going to little league or
something.
I was 9
or 10. Going up to my buddy's room after school to listen to music. He had an older
brother who was 16 or 17 at the time, and my buddy was really into the Beatles so we
listened to a lot of Sgt. Pepper. One day I found Hot Rocks up there, and opened it up and
COULD NOT BELIEVE MY FUCKING EYES! These dudes were fucking SCARY. Two images stand
out...One, Charlie on the back, not as the English gentlemen, but as this sinister looking
warlord who was about to have these barbarians cut my head off! The other is the picture
inside, with a shirtless Keith Richards staring at the camera while an obviously baked
Brian Jones gives you that "what the fuck you looking at" glare? All the while,
Mick and Charlie are wearing these sly grins. DAMN! Who the hell were these guys? I was
soon to find out.
My
first Stones memory was at my next door neighbor's house and we played Hot Rocks' 4 album
sides over and over on their turntable in the basement. We must have listened to that
album 1000 times in the summer of 72. Sides 3 and 4 were very "scary and
mysterious" to all of us 14-yr olds. Rape, murder, street fighters, sympathy for
devils, hit and run rapers in anger, gold coast slave ships bound for cotton fields, wild
horses that couldn't carry me away, cross fire hurricanes, etc.
The
combination of the pictures from the double gatefold album and that incredible music.
bought
"Hot Rocks" on sale in 1973 at the MEMCO Department store in
Soon
after, we went to a double feaure at an old movie theater to see some stupid horror flick,
and the second feature was "Gimme Shelter".
Before
that, my only recollection of the Stones was seeing the single "Honky Tonk
Women" in our house (not sure how it got there) and thinking, boy, they put TWO hits
on one disc (YCAGWYW). That's dumb, I thought.
Up
until then, all my older step-siblings were Beatles fanatics. When the "White
Album" came out in 1968, it was like the second coming. I was always asking them to
play "Ob La Di, Ob La Da".
When
Exile was released a LA radio station played it straight through, one side at a time. This
was the first time I heard it. I was at a laundromat, probably washing everything I owned,
and ran back and forth from washer or dryer to my VW Bug to hear the next side on the
radio. Caught some verbal abuse from a woman for holding up the parade in the laundromat,
but I was not going to leave my car before the album side finished.
My very
first memory of the Stones is in the spring of 1968, I was 12. I was at a friends house,
we were probably trying to figure out a way to scare one of the girls in our neighborhood,
or something as devious, when Jumping Jack Flash came on the radio. I remember thinking it
was a cool song but at 12 I was not very interested in music. I knew the Beatles were a
big thing so earlier I had bought "My Bonnie Lies Over The Ocean" for a girl I
had a crush on. I knew "Groovin" by "The Young Rascals." That was the
extent of my musical knowledge.
But
when my life changed I was at the local ice cream parlor after a day at junior high. I
guess I was in ninth grade because it was 1971. My friends and I were being cool by
smoking cigarettes in the back of the parlor. I was trying to impress a girl named Beth
who had the greatest legs I had ever seen. Probably to this day she is the standard for me
for great legs, that is for a normal girl, of course Cameron Diaz is the standard for me
now. (and I cannot believe none of you want a picture of her leaving a Stones concert). We
were sitting around the juke box, a cloud of smoke over our heads, generally acting cool
as ninth graders will do.
My
"best friend," had an older brother that had long hair and was
This
may sound odd, even impossible, but for a few months I stopped paying attention to girls
and listened to the Stones as much as I could. This is when I started smoking reefer in
the creek back behind our house. We would spend the night listening to "Let it
Bleed," "Sticky Fingers" and "Ya Ya's." Late at night for a freak
out we would listen to "Careful With That Axe Eugene" off "Umma Gumma"
(?) by Pink Floyd.
Within
a month of hearing "Bitch" I got into conflict with my parents about my hair and
clothes. They told me that I could not grow my hair out so I shaved my head, got a pirate
bandana and a drill sergeant's hat and was off to school. I got sent home for having a
shaved head when the school had a policy agaist long hair. My parents never said a word to
me again about what to wear or about long hair.
It was
all over. By the end of the summer I had tripped for the first time, I was smoking pot
regularly and having sex with girls. Yahoo Stones! I learned early that rock and rollers
got laid a lot.
I heard
the sound and wanted to be a part of the Stones scene. "Bitch" did it to me. I
started down the road and never turned back. I still like girls with great thighs and put
on "Bitch" every time I hit the road for a road trip.
Was the
summer of 1987. My best friend moved into town from just outside of town. I went over to
his place one day, and he said you gotta check this out. It was video rented of the
Rolling Stones 1981 tour from a local video store called the Video Zone. IT was Let Spend
The Night Together. I slowley got into them afterwards. I bought Hot Rocks and one of my
moms friends gave me a casset of IT's Only Rock'n Roll for my birthday. And another one of
her frineds tape me Let IT Bleed and Who;'s Next. For years after my firend and I would
get together and drink the night away watching Lets Spend The Night Together. I would love
to do that with him again. But we have lost touch.
was
growing up in a strange country which in my opinion have a little interest in the good
music. In
Sorry
for writing this long. All I want to say is "The First..." was really great. Now
when I listen to Brown Sugar it doesn't give me the same kick as when I've listened to
that for the first time. I wish to erase Stones from my memory and to discover them once
again!
One of
my very first memories period has something to do with the Stones. My dad had payed
I
checked this memory with my folks and they confirmed. The fact that I didn't get a Stones
shirt must've triggered something: I keep on buying them since the Steel Wheels Tour, keep
them around when they're worn out. I think I have 40 different prints or something...
I was
eight years old watching raw deal, and heard satisfaction.I remeber grabbing my huge tape
recorder, and calling my dad to hear this cool song.I was surprised when he knew who it
was.And thats when I knew of the band the rolling stones.I also use to listen to this cool
army tv show that would start off with Paint it black.Does anyone remember this show.Up
this point of my life, I thought only the beatles existed.
It's
hard to pin point my first Stones experiance, it was in the early to mid 60's, probably
listening to Satisfaction for the first time. The first Stones that I remember with any
clarity is Got Live If You Want It. The Beatles were the biggest thing on the scene at the
time and I aquired a copy of GLIYWI, I wore that puppy out listening to it and The Beatles
were moved down the list a bit. I also have early memories of listening to Mona and I
rememeber the first time I listened to Beggars Banquet, Let It Bleed and Sticky Fingers.
It was
about 3 years ago or so, i just started working at this grocery store where i grew up. At
that time pretty beat up was working there, and i got to him pretty good, and he
introduced to me to the rolling stones, my first album was bridges to
Listening
to Don't Stop..
I am
getting sentimental now. Not because of my memories but everone elses! Seems like an
Wonder Years (yes Ifox Wonder Years rulez) episode. Things like 'my friend and I listenend
to the Stones for years, but now we just haven't been in touch' just makes me think how
strange life is. Ya know, things come and go. An Endless-summer kinda memory thing. A!
Blame me for getting sentimental! lol.
Anyway,
I don't know what my exact first memory is. My mom likes the Stones, but I believe she
only did got one tape or something, but when the Stones where on the radio she did mention
it where the Stones. So then I knew what the Stones were. But it can also be Paint it
Black from Tour of Duty. Back in '98, when I've allready knew the Stones, I first got
hooked by YCAGWYW. But not in that good way, lol.
Thinking
back it's like there have always been the stones. My old man has always been talking about
them, but strangely I don't recal any albums in our household. When I was about 10 I got
my first Cassette recorder and Hot rocks came with it and from that moment on there was no
return. A few years later I got my first Stereo with a CD-Player and my Dad didn't have
one of his own, so he kept buying CDs for me to copy to tape for him. The first one might
have been Steel Wheels. Those were the good times... One or two years later he got his own
CD-Player, and it changed to him "borowing" all my stuff. When I came home with
a new one, he was suddenly all like "Oh thank, you, that is so thoughtfull of you!
You shouldn't have..." And there went my shiny new CDs :-(. I moved out not long
after the third CD that took that particular route.
Wow,
this is going wayyy back.... it was 1964. I had heard Tell Me and Time is on My Side. I
knew nothing about them. One day in the San Antonio Light, there was a photo of them. The
moment I saw them, I was in love. They were so DIFFERENT. The ad was for the ill-fated San
Antonio Stock Show & Rodeo appearance. My brother's friend Sarah and her friends were
going to the show. I begged and pleaded to let me go with them, but I was just 9, so my
parents said NO WAY. And probably rightfully so.
The
next few memories I have of them was taking my allowance and buying High Tide and Green
Grass (with my own money! LOL) at
I
remember screeching to wake the dead one night when we were all in the living room
watching the end of that night's Ed Sullivan Show. I had seen the first Stones appearance,
now I was thinking, "one of these nights he just HAS to announce the Rolling Stones
again!" No sooner than I'd thought it, he said, "Next week," blah blah
blah... "THE ROLLING STONES!" Screams from the audience, my squeals, my parents
telling me to hush up, all the while trying not to smile too much... what incredible
memories.
Thanks
for this thread. I've had so much fun reading everybody's accounts.
This
isn't my first Stones memory, but I remember when the Stones threw out the fishing line
and got me hooked. I was in the basement listening to a radio station out of Ft.Wayne and
She's So Cold came calling me though the speakers. I couldn't get enough of that song.
When my brother was home on a weekend from college I had him listen to SSC. Don't know
what he thought about the song, but a couple of weeks later when he came home from college
he gave me my first two Stones albums, Emotional Rescue and Suckin in the 70's. I wore
them two albums out. The next album I bought was Hot Rocks and there has been no looking
back since then. The Stones set the hook in me and they set it good, clear down to my ass.
When I
was a wee little child, my dad used to sing YCAGWYW to me when I wa s bad... lol! But I
guess that doesn't really count.
When I
was about 9, I was totally into the Beatles and barely listened to anything else. I'd of
course heard Stones songs before, but I don't really recall which or when. And I knew that
they were in some way rivals of the Beatles. The first time I can remember hearing the
Stones conciously was on the radio, 19th Nervous Breakdown. My dad told me that was by the
Rolling Stones, and that he liked them even better than the Beatles (I of course was
totally shocked...). I remember thinking they sounded weird and not like the Beatles. I
also remember hearing Under My Thumb and Get Off Of My Cloud on the radio before I really
knew them. But one day I decided to try and figure out why my dad liked these guys so
much. The only CD I knew of in his collection was Sticky Fingers, so one night I took it
and listened to it in my headphones, as if I were doing something naughty. I think most of
all, the guitars blew me away. Later, I discovered Tattoo You, Steel Wheels in a pile of
my parents' CDs in my room. One reason I love Flashpoint is I listened to it so much when
I first found it at 10 or so. But I didn't really get hooked until my mom bought 40 Licks-
and I haven't been able to quit them since!
I've
written this so many times, so here's a short version:
I went
to a concert, perhaps 11 or 12 years ago. Teh Swedish band played Satisfaction as an
encore and I told my dad that I liked that song miles over the other ones that had been
played during the evening. When we came home, he showed me his old LP "30 greatest
hits", put it on, and from that moment I was hooked. She's a rainbow and Dandelion
were my favourites the first two years (remember, I was only 9 years old!), then I went on
to the rocking songs... :)
I also
really digged the way they all looked on the 6 photos on the front cover. They were cool,
not Metallica or Guns'n'Roses.
It was
definitely their debut on Ed Sullivan,
There
were 3 events that stirred my stones consciousness.
1.
Summer of 72, my parents went over to their friends house...I was 7 milling around, and
picked up a stones K-Tel type album, while, with 6 photos on the cover, MJ, KR, MT, BJ,
BW, and CW. My only memory of that was, I knew the stones were a 5 piece (I don't remember
how I knew that), and I was trying to figure out which photo was a duplicate. Was it the
KR and the BW one? No. Was it the MT and BJ one (because of the blonde hair)? No. I was
confused, and didn't figure that one out.
2.
1978....disco. I got Saturday Night Fever and a couple of other albums. I was watching
daytime TV, some sort of entertainment report, and they played a portion of the Miss You
video. They played the part where Mick is dancing and singing directly to the camera. I
remember thinking, WTF??? What the hell is this?
3.
1980....listening to my clock radio at night. She's So Cold comes on. It's like someone
has finally 'plugged me in'. I'm in shock! I can't get over the guitar's, and the vocal.
I'm hooked in an instant! I buy ALL their albums, CD's, posters, clothing, concerts,
stickers, buttons. I'm also the ONLY fan I know in high school. Everyone else is into
AC/DC. That is until the next year, when Tattoo You comes out. I am vindicated!
25
years later, (and thousands of dollars I might add), I finally get to see them play She's
So Cold live in
It was
1969 I was 9 years old and I got a little record player for Christmas. My big brother had
a new LP with a cake on it. When he was out with friends I would sneak into his room and
borrow his LP. The rest is history. In 1972 I cried because my parents wouldn't let me go
see them with my brother. My dad promised when I was old enough he would let me go and see
them.
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First Album
by Travellin’ Man
(November 2005)
For me
it was,'Some Girls' on 8-track in 1978. When I think of my high school days, 'Some Girls'
and 'Made In The Shade' are the soundtrack of that portion of my life. I played 'Some
Girls' over and over in my bedroom on my ol' Panasonic.(The running order was different on
the 8-track from the LP. I suppose to prevent splitting songs in half.) 'Made In The
Shade' was a cassette a friend owned. He would pick me up in his VW bug every morning, we
would crank up,'Made In The Shade' and arrive at school feeling like kings! Even back then
I made sure ,'Bitch' was in my ears as often as possible.
Some
Girls LP. My friend Pete bought it when it 1st came out sometime in 1977-78.(I was a
freshman in High School) I think he bought the Cars 1st album around the same time but I
only bought the Rolling Stones album. We always used to laugh hysterically during the
title song when Mick said "Black Girls Just Want to Get Fucked All Night". We
were such dorks, it's why we bought Hair of the Dog by
Man of Taste
My
Uncle used to have a kick ass bachelor pad when I was in high school. When he was out of
town I would stay there and use his hot tub, pool table, liquor, etc. Often we'd party in
the tub and I'd rifle through his cd collection and always end up popping in Sticky
Fingers for backup music. After a few listens I started thinking "hmmm, these guys
are pretty good." Sticky Fingers was my first Stones purchase and to this day Wild
Horses remains my favorite song of all-time. As an aside, chicks dug the hot tub. Ahh,
those wre
just
started hanging out with Pretty Beat Up, and he knew I was into rock n roll, very lightly.
I was into bands like REM, metallica, and that. He put on some stones songs, cant remember
what I heard, all do know is that I was hooked. Then he offered me his Bridges to
Pretty
Beat Up of course rebought the album, but still, everyday I listen to the rolling stones,
whenever i hear a song from bridges, i thank god, and pretty beat up for allowing me to
hear such mezmorizing music! Thanks Pretty Beat Up!!
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to Might as Well Get Juiced...
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signifigance of songs
by Jack Flash,
( July 2005)
So my question is: do we dig songs just because we can relate to them? If you heard a song
that was obviously really bad but described perfectly what you felt about something or a
situation in your life, would you like it? Once I realized 100 Years was so significant to
me, I started to dig the music three times more. Just curious about all your opinions.
Pretty Beat Up
great
song, love Mick and Keith vocals on that one, Mick Taylor shines like a diamond and
Undercover
Maybe I
should have used emotional influence instead of 'experience" in my other posts. It is
the emotional influence of the songs that make them great.
Every
album's quality is equal to the experience of hearing it and what is going on in one's
life at the time. For me I get so excited about a new album and indoctrinate myself so
thoroughly in it that I associate each album with fond memories.
I
cannot divorce what was going on when I first heard Exile. The experience of growing to
love it (at 15)and memorizing it. The same with GHS. Saying GHS is not as good an album is
like saying 73 was not as good as 72.
The
Stones put out the music that is perfect for the time. So many people dis "Dirty
Work," but for me it was the perfect album for the mid 80's. It was angry and raw,
and hell, I wanted to fight. "Had it With You" was so perfect for my mood I
blasted out my girlfriend's bitching with it.
I put
on Sticky Fingers when I hit the road because I think it is perfect to leave town to Brown
Sugar.
I am
listening to GHS right now and it is a fresh to me today as it was in 73. I graduated High
School to that album.
That
being said, and getting off my soap box, I have my favorite albums. I came of age to
"Sticky Fingers" and "Exile." I collect every bootleg of the 72 tour
as I can find. "Exile" is by far my favorite album. I cannot say the best,
because all of them are the best at the time, but my favorite.
"Voodoo
Lounge" holds a special spot for me because it was the first "adult" album
the Stones put out.
Anyway...
LIB, SF, "Exile" GHS and IORR are my favorites. Largely because of the
experiences, emotional influences, I was having.
But now
I am building up to a new album. So I am going to say the new album, without hearing it,
is my favorite album.
There
is nothing like a new album coming out. It is like all the best experiences of my life
congeal and open up with new potential.
I will
be there dancing and singing with the Stones. Time will be suspended and the eternity of
my soul, intimately attached to the soul of the music, will expand.
Thanks
for helping me prepare for the big event in
The K Man
Yes,
emotions do play a big part in how you like a song. I remember because when I was getting
into Wild Horses, and I was going through some trouble with this girl I liked. The power
of that song was magnified so signifigantly because of what I was going through at the
time, and I will eve admit to the world that Wild Horses made me cry a bit. In fact, I'm
glad to admit it because then it proves how powerful The Stones are. And today, while Wild
Horses is still a great song, it isn't quite as powerful to me as it was back when I was
in that emotional stage. And I don't think it's because I got tired of the song, I still
love it as much as I did back then it's just more the impact it makes on me when i'm
listening to it doesn't happen when I was, as I said before, when I was suffering some
teenage angst (which as I look back now, it was rather ridiculous).
So in
conclusion, emotions do play a part in how you like a song or how you feel about that
particular song.
I have
the theory about the songs. It's not only mine I have heard it somewhere. I believe there
are two kinds of sogs: the ones that hit your your head and the ones hit the emotions.
It's OK when you can say: gee, this song is good in musical terms, it's really very well
done. But hey, often that music don't show emotions. I consider mamy songs of The Betles
like that. They are great but for me.
I think
what is great about The Stones is the special feeling of emotions. One can say they are
simple, primitive, just one riff, but try to juice out the emotions like The Stones do.
If you
are brave enough to lead your own life not just live up to others expectations no wonder
you can understand the vibes in The Stones songs. As for me when I think about my mistakes
of the past I can hear the songs I loved at the moment. But fuck what do I know about
life?
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First
Album
by Travellin’ Man
For me
it was,'Some Girls' on 8-track in 1978. When I think of my high school days, 'Some Girls'
and 'Made In The Shade' are the soundtrack of that portion of my life. I played 'Some
Girls' over and over in my bedroom on my ol' Panasonic.(The running order was different on
the 8-track from the LP. I suppose to prevent splitting songs in half.) 'Made In The
Shade' was a cassette a friend owned. He would pick me up in his VW bug every morning, we
would crank up,'Made In The Shade' and arrive at school feeling like kings! Even back then
I made sure ,'Bitch' was in my ears as often as possible.
Some
Girls LP. My friend Pete bought it when it 1st came out sometime in 1977-78.(I was a
freshman in High School) I think he bought the Cars 1st album around the same time but I
only bought the Rolling Stones album. We always used to laugh hysterically during the
title song when Mick said "Black Girls Just Want to Get Fucked All Night". We
were such dorks, it's why we bought Hair of the Dog by
Man of Taste
My Uncle used to have a kick ass bachelor pad when I was in high school. When he was out
of town I would stay there and use his hot tub, pool table, liquor, etc. Often we'd party
in the tub and I'd rifle through his cd collection and always end up popping in Sticky
Fingers for backup music. After a few listens I started thinking "hmmm, these guys
are pretty good." Sticky Fingers was my first Stones purchase and to this day Wild
Horses remains my favorite song of all-time. As an aside, chicks dug the hot tub. Ahh,
those were
just
started hanging out with Pretty Beat Up, and he knew I was into rock n roll, very lightly.
I was into bands like REM, metallica, and that. He put on some stones songs, cant remember
what I heard, all do know is that I was hooked. Then he offered me his Bridges to
Pretty
Beat Up of course rebought the album, but still, everyday I listen to the rolling stones,
whenever i hear a song from bridges, i thank god, and pretty beat up for allowing me to
hear such mezmorizing music! Thanks Pretty Beat Up!!
Listening
to Might as Well Get Juiced...
Stones Legacy
in Peril?
by
Like it
or not, seems to me, the Stones' very visible slide -- from remotely memorable albums,
from tree tops -- could hurt their legacy in the long run. Not to us, but to later
generations of music listeners. I worry that teens today see the U2s, Madonnas, even
Beatles and Aerosmiths, as more reputable foggies than the Stones, who wrinkle and
Super-Bowl strut to highlight some of their worst albums.
I
wonder if legacies are delicate things that must be continually nurtured. Or lost? The
Kinks were important to '80s kids, but I think have fallen off the radar for 00s kids.
Even dead bands like the Beatles still must capture the teen's imagination. And they do.
But do 16-year-olds know less-than-primary-but-top-tier-songs 'Tumbling Dice' and 'Paint
It Black'? I think, you already hear them less than you did 15 years ago. And the image of
a self-glorifying band charging $300 for tickets on tours supporting rather stale albums
can't help.
The
following bands, among others, are keeping more relevant, credible and creative in their
third decade than the Stones did in their third, fourth, or fifth decades:
1. U2
-- new duet with Mary J Blige on 'One' proves how enduring that superb song is
2.
Madonna -- not saying it's great, but she's keeping teens loving her -- that ensures a
longer legacy
3.
Depeche Mode -- songs continue to matter and sincere with band's mystique/message
4.
Prince -- no comment required
Sorry
mate I will have to disagree, being 23 years old myself and seeing the amount of people
much younger than me absolutely loving both the shows I saw last month, i would have to
say there legacy will not be lost in the near future.
I think
you either love them or hate them and bands like U2 are much more to the wider public's
taste meaning younger people hear them a lot more than they would hear the stones.
But in
saying that younger people who want to gain a greater knowledge of classic rock music will
always turn to the stones as they are and will always be ROCK n ROLL.
They
wrote the book on it and don't worry a lot of kids understand this fact. When bono becomes
the president of the world you won't even remember what band he used to be in. I am
confident the stones will be just as relavant in another 40 odd years, i dont think I
could say the same about U2 and any of the others you mentioned.
I don't
think the Stones will lose their legacy. Perhaps the band will not have the status as it
does to us but musicians will draw inspiration from their music and pass along the sound
and feelings of their music.
The
Stones will be an inspiration for new bands-- for how long... 50 years maybe? Musicians
will look back on the Stones' work just like Brian drew inspiration from Elmore James and
the like.
The
Stones are an archetypal force and that force will be present in all generations.
I agree
somewhat that other bands <<<<<are keeping more relevant, credible and
creative in their third decade than the Stones did in their third, fourth, or fifth
decades.>>> It would be difficult for a person to get turned on to the Stones by
their music after Undercover. The later albums are loved by Stonesfans because they love
the band. Just like many of us look back at the golden years of the Stones, so will
generations look back at those years. I doubt people in the future will think their music
is relevant and creative past Tattoo You, with the possible exception of Voodoo Lounge.
The
Stones legacy will be in the bands that draw inspiration from the Stones, and I think that
will last for decades to come.
The
band may be forgotten but not the legacy they leave of pure rock and roll. In the future
their will be someone like Brian, to a lesser degree of course, who has the vision and
genius to create some kind of new music that the Stones awakened in them.
Very
interesting post Oklahoma Zeppelin like usual. The power behind the Stones music will be
there forever.
The
following bands, among others, are keeping more relevant, credible and creative in their
third decade than the Stones did in their third, fourth, or fifth decades:
1. U2
-- new duet with Mary J Blige on 'One' proves how enduring that superb song is
2.
Madonna -- not saying it's great, but she's keeping teens loving her -- that ensures a
longer legacy
3.
Depeche Mode -- songs continue to matter and sincere with band's mystique/message
4.
Prince -- no comment required<
LOL..Thanks,for
that I needed a good laugh..I take it by your nick you might be a Led Zeppelin fan?...if
so..how long did their legacy last?
Dude,you
are on another planet...wake up and smell Keith's weed and Jack Daniels...as long as the
Stones can after 40 years get fans into stadiums,even with the high ticket prices they
will be reconed as the best and have a good legacy..show me any other rock band thats
still 40 years plus in the business and still have a young fan base (just look at the age
of a lot of Gassers that post here)..Sure i'm not blind to the fact that the Stones arent
what they used to be when they were at their peak ito album sales and the product that
they put out there ect..but fuck,dude they are 40 years in the business and still going
strong..can we say that about bands like Led Zeppelin?..(even if you might not be a
Zeppelin fan,lets use then anyway as an example,but I can use a lot of other bands also as
an example)
It
amazes me how you get people thats not Stones fans that will post negative crap about them
on a Stones fan based website. I don’t post crap about Led Zeppelin on their
websites...I have better things to do with my time I guess.
>Depeche
Mode -- songs continue to matter and sincere with band's mystique/message<
Dude,with
that statement no one would ever take you seriously...just a tip...Depeche
Mode..LOL...thats funny I must admit..very original.
enough
said...
More
creative? U2? More creative?
What
utter shite.
No one
my age gives a shit about prince. Depeche Mode?!!! I assure people rightfully give even
less of a shit about them.
People
like U2, but to compare their legacy to the Stones is absurd.
Just my
take on how they're coping with age<
60+
years old and they still performing on stage...with Mick strutting his stuff,most people
half his age wont be able to do the same...I recon they aged well...
Oklahoma
Zeppelin I talk under correction now but arent you the guy who also made a post last year
or the year before that,saying that the sax part in "Brown Sugar" is
like
over done or crap..something in that line?..well if it was you wich I'm almost sure is the
case (i'm not in the mood to go check all the posts of the past 2 years) then it would
explain why you would make such a crap post again about the Stones aging...it seems like
whenever you make a post on this site you have something negative or insulting to say
about the Stones..go and make crap posts on you Led Zeppelin websites boy!..
Everyone
is entitled to their opinion and I also have my fair share of critisizm with some of the
Stones related issues and stuff they do..after all although is difficult to understand at
times they are also human and make mistakes at times,and I also dont dig all their songs
and albums..but I dont "appear" on this website to just post negative stuff and
crap about the Stones.
I
apologise,to the rest of the Gassers about this outburst i'm just in a general crap mood
today,and I when I visit Gasland to learn more about the Stones and get the latest news on
them,wich normally lightens up my day also seeing the other Gassers here,I dont need to
see crap like this posted on the website by someone who's clearly here to stir..Oklahoma
Zeppelin live with it LED ZEPPELIN will never,and was never as good as the Stones.
The
Stones are still together....
I've
said it before and I'll say it again. Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, and Queen are all far more
popular than the Stones among teenagers and college students in
1.)
They've become celebrities for reasons other than their music (Keith's hedonism, Mick's
jet-setting, the whole band's age) so great music isn't the first thing young people
associate with the Stones.
2.)
They didn't fade away right after they hit their prime in the 70s, so their legend has
been tainted by a number of sub-par albums.
3.)
They don't have a really flashy wanker of a solo guitarist in the band, and kids these
days think that the best music comes from bands that are "technically"
brilliant.
4.) A
lot of kids today think that rock and roll is supposed to be serious and moody, with bands
like
5.) A
ton of people hate Mick's singing because it is so unorthodox. Also, Mick was never as
melodramatic as Freddie Mercury or Robert Plant, and was mostly concerned with dancing
around and having a good time on stage. (See #4)
You can
be as optimistic as you want, but the Stones legacy is undoubtedly diminishing. Today,
there are still plenty of die-hard Stones fans out there. The critics today are also quite
complimentary of the great Stones albums of the past. However, unless trends in music take
a drastic change in the next couple of decades, I think the Stones will continue to see a
decline in their number of young fans.
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On Being a Stonesfan
by Undercover
(July 5, 2005)
I had to write this because of the tremendous favor PaulK did me. I had lost one of the discs from my Touring Party 72 collection. I asked the board for some help. PaulK sent me a copy along with some other discs from 72. I asked the board for a favor and a few days later I got more than I asked for.
So...
In my own way, besides saying thanks to PaulK, I wanted to add something to the board. I
have read here a lot about what is the best record or solo or some other aspect of the
Stones.
I have
put forward that there is no way to judge what is best because there is no objective
standard to judge them by. I argued that each album was the best at the time and that the
Stones could have made only that album at that time.
I
stated that experience is the only way I can judge an album and experience is always in
the present. That makes all the albums, for me, from "Sticky Fingers" on equal,
because I lived them. I learned to love earlier albums but I was too young to experience
them as they came out. Fortunately "Let it Bleed" and Ya's Ya's " were
contemporary, so it was easy to bring them into my experience.
It may
sound funny to speak of experience this way. I, just like Keno, had my first "grown
up" experience upon learning of the death of a family friend in
I was
never a kid after that. After that I wanted to find my own way and the route I chose to
discover myself was music. I did not know much about the Stones at that time, only
remembering hearing "Jumping Jack Flash" as a kid.
The
Beatles were the easiset music to slip into in 68 for me and I followed them for answers
to my newly "grown up" questions. The big moment was first hearing
"Bitch" at the local teen hang-out. After that I was a Stones fan. The Beatles
were not playing what I was experiencing. But "Bitch" and "Brown
Sugar" captured the times as I knew them.
My
point is this-- we Stones fans share experience together. We shared the times and the
experience of each of their albums as they came out. I am not trying to belittle younger
folk, they had the same experience of hearing that first Stones song that captured them,
that they connected to, they just had more to go back and learn to love.
Back
then there was an element of danger to being a Stones fan. It was no peace love hippy
thing. It was rebellion.
But the
sounds soaked into some of us. They were sounds that resonated with our experience. Life
was not the groovy place it was made out to be. Our eyes opened up to a new experience.
Part of it was drugs but the biggest part was the common ground found between others that
heard the sound and felt it with our bodies. A dividing line appeared and there were those
of us that heard it, felt it, and decided to live on the other side of that line. We went
to see them in 72 against every "reasonable" persons advice.
The
sound had already started to grow in our souls. We listened to the music until we had
every note memorized. Until we could rock without any audible music because our bodies
felt the sound. The songs became part of our unconscious.
At some
point our experience became transparent to other Stones fans. We felt the same danger in
the air and we rebelled against the same luke warm middle of the road everything is fine
pacifying messages we were bombarded with. The Stones were the edge of rock and roll and
we went to the edge with them.
Our
bodies changed as we learned that sometimes you had to fight and sometimes you had to fuck
and sometimes you had to numb the pain. Sometimes rejoice. We entered a shared reality
with other Stones fans. We felt a bond with them. We broke the rules so we could see the
Stones and be with people like us, sometimes bled, sometimes had hassles with the police.
We were part of the swirling masses "all black and white."
We made
the music part of us. It was with us as we grew up and could make more decisions for
ourselves. "Midnight Rambler" rocked in our minds and we knew it was true.
We
needed shelter. War was just a shot away but love was just a kiss away. We kissed each
other goodnight.
We grew
up with the Stones and they became part of us. We became part of them. We supported them,
spent our money on them, lost jobs, lost girlfriends, we sacrificed to be a part of the
sound.
We are
a part of the Stones. Without us they are nothing-- we made them. We experienced life
together. We felt the sound together. We made friendships that were never broken because
our ties to a band. Our ties to a lifestyle. Our ties to living in the moment with a sound
that changed and grew with us.
We
committed ourselves to a sound and the sound in others. The Stones made the sound but we
vibrated it too.
My
experiences are my own but I share a portion of them with every other Stonesfan. There is
no middle of the road.
The
Stones are just some Englishman playing music but combined with the fans we are rock and
roll.
When
PaulK sent me those CDs he must have felt a comradship with me. I feel it with him now. I
feel it with all of you who can say to yourselves truthfully: We lived the life.
Stonesfan
brothers and sisters let's feel for a minute how we grew to become who we are. Without the
Stones we would not be who we are.
We made
the Stones together. They made a sound we rallied around and defined ourselves by. We have
grown older together, the Stones and us. We reflect back to the Stones and that is what
they become. All of us have been in a process of becoming together.
Even
the arguments I read about over the new tour are nothing but us becoming older together
and our conflicts about changing priorities.
I can
be transported to a Stones Heaven. A Rolling Stones archetype. Mick T., Brian, Keith, Mick
, Charlie, Bill, Ronnie, and all the others. We sing the songs all together because we are
one.
May the
Stones gods look over you, and the band as well.
Cool
post, I only got to read it just now. Sounds like your a handful of years younger than me
perhaps.
Those
of us who were in our early teens, but under 17 or 18 at the close of the '60s, were still
just old enough to understand all the shit that was going down. But we were still growing
up too, and worried that when we hit 18 ours asses would be shipped off to 'Nam via the
draft. I can remember all of my friends (and being a part of the Baby Boom, there were a
lot of friends my age) talking about going to Canada when we hit 18, fuck fighting for Pig
Nixon! I mean, all the kids where I grew up felt this way about our own country - we
didn't trust it or it's leaders one bit. I know for myself, all this bullshit sure did
shape me into the hippie/yippie I became. I remember one straight telling me in the early
'70s that I could not be both a hippie and a yippie at the same time, as this person
didn't really have a clue what the two were. He kept trying to tell me yippies were
nothing but punks with long hair. Guess he had forgotten that just a few years earlier
even the punks had long hair, too. The things that really brought the punks, yippies and
hippies together back then was they all were into the anti-establishment movement (fueled
by the draft & war along with the united hatred of Nixon), - plus a love for rock
music. Of course, by the mid '70s the punks were also pretending to be against the hippies
(those who were still left), as even hippies were not cool to them anymore (guess the male
punks were just jealous that us hippies got more woman than they ever got, and we had the
better music, too). But by the '80s most of the hippies, yippies and punks were all
underground and all back together as friends again, as minorities have to get along with
each other to survive.
I
remember around 1980 or so, my wife was working in this small Colorado Springs bar, and
this older, high ranking Air Force guy came in and started to hit on her - even though by
just by looking at her one could tell that she was a hippie chick. I was on the other end
of the bar from him and he didn't know who I was, and after a few minutes I walked up to
him and told him the chick he was hitting on was my wife. He gave me a dirty look and said
something along the lines that my kind should not be allowed to marry and if we had kids,
that they should be taken away from us. So here was this redneck pig, who didn't even know
anything about me or my family (other than that he could see that I was a longhair), and
saying all this shit about me and mine. But I kept my cool and we kept talking for awhile.
At one point he said to me what a waste it was to think he was defending the country for
freaks like me, so I told him he should have some respect for people like me who's tax
money went into his paycheck . He then told me that my kind (he meant hippies) didn't even
exist any more in the world today. So I told him if that was so, then could he explain
what I was doing there talking to him. At that point my wife asked him to leave the bar,
he didn't and kept his shit going for a few more minutes, claiming that my wife wasn't a
hippie but a biker chick, so with that she walked up to him and poured his half full glass
of beer onto his lap and told him "there is your biker chick for ya". He stood
up, I stood up and got between him and the old lady, just knowing something bad was about
to go down. But he showed what a pussy he was, he said something along the lines about us
being lowlifes and then turned around and left. Me, the wife and kids soon move out of
that area and back to liberal Telluride after that, as we didn't want to live anywhere
near a military town any longer.
But
yes, that was how it was not only in the '60s, but even in the '70s and '80s (and no, I'm
not gonna bring up the '70s story about me and the redneck in that Nashville restaurant
again, either, look it up in the archives) but you know, it wasn't just the war back then
that shaped me, it really was the Beatles & the Stones too that did that to me. I
guess that is why Mick pisses me off so much these days, back then who ever dreamed that
the drug taking, hippie Mick Jagger, would some day, to the horror of his long times fans,
would become a fucking Sir! Boy, times have change, but I still haven't.
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How
loyal are you to Gasland?
by Dano
What I
mean is do you only post on certain days? Monday thru Fridays? Saturdays and Sundays? From
work only? From home only? Both? Mornings/afternoons/evenings/all? Do you spend more time
at other Stones message boards? Less time? The same? Do you stop here first? Last? Do you
read every message? Only ones of interest? A little from all?
For
myself, I'm here Sunday thru Saturday from home only if I'm not busy. Just about anytime
of the day except between the hours of
This
wasn't meant to be a contest as to see who puts in the most hours here but just to see
what your loyalty is.
My
keyboard is full of breakfast crumbs, Ronnie!
Very
loyal. I read this board often and post only when I don't get here too late on a thread to
add anything of value or if I think I can add to the info being put out there. Which is
rare because most posters here know much more then I when it comes to all things Stones.
I check
out IORR a couple times a week and go over to Rocks Off once in a while. I go to
StoneDougs maybe once a month. All this surfing of course picks up when a tour is in the
wind. I have not desire to post on those other boards because of some weird sense of
loyalty to this site.
I was
going through the bowels of my computer a couple months ago when I was having conflicts. I
found a file from the first time I stumbled across this site and was shocked that it took
me years to go from a lurker to a poster. But, I lurk more then post even now.
I agree
with Starbuck, there are posters here that I read every word they type and others I skim
through. Even the posters that get me upset have a special place here.
I post
from work when i'm on my prep hours, and i post from home. if i'm online at a family
member's house i'll check there too. the dialogue here is quite stimulating most of the
time, both stonsical musical and political. i don't read every word in every thread but
peruse the topics and the posters who respond to the topics. i too have my favorite
posters, though i would probably never reveal who they are. i suspect my faves are the
same as most others'.
DL,
don't be annoyed with joshie. once you're around long enough you'll realize that the josh
esq character is nothing more than a fictitious mouthpiece for our boca buddie. he has
said before that he posts the stuff he posts to get reactions out of people.
in real
life, he's a non circumcised arab american from queens who sells cars, has every beatles
album and absolutely loves my charming sense of humor.
You
have a knack Dano of taking questions asked here a zillion times and asking for the
answers in a different light, good for you!
Me,
lets see, I guess I'm loyal, as this place really is a non-paying job for me, sometimes
fun, sometimes a pain in the ass. It's hard to say how many hours a month I put in, except
I know that normal cleaning time alone usually takes up about 4 or 5 hours. Not bad when I
look back at the old board we used to use, normal clean-up time back then was about 15
hours a month, with another 2 or 3 hours added to that in fixing the cgi problems that
came regularly with that board. So it's a lot better today, work wise. We also have a lot
less spamming and trolling to clean up here now, thanks to the fact that I can track and
ban problem posters. The one thing that has increased a bit is cleaning up off topic flame
wars. SDH and The Storm were the old problems, they are gone now, but Josh has taken care
of their loss; just last week I had to work overtime editing and deleting a bunch of his
posts. As far as keeping an eye out for the place, I usually try to at least take a look
at things, if even only for a minute or two, every morning and again late at nite.
Sometime on weekends, like this last one, I might not be around, so I can't. I also have a
few Gassers who work undercover for me, who let me know through emails what is up and if a
spam post needs to be taken care of asap, so thanks to those who do that.
As far
as my posting goes, most late nights is when I'm posting, yet of late I've also posted a
bunch around
Gasland
is still a Gas, times 3, Ronnie!
I'm
very loyal to this board. Check it from work and at home. I check out IORR about once or
twice a week and lurk at RO sometimes, but never posted there. It is a good board though.
At
first, I did read everything here, lately I've been avoiding most of the political nsc's,
the Wood vs.
Now
Joshie makes me laugh as long as he's talking about music.
Sing me
a Beatles song, Ronnie!
This is
the only place I really post. I post somewhere else as spridle, but it's not really a
Stones board, and I have some stuff to do with the trading groups, so...
Anyway,
this is my cyber home, for sure. I can post from work, and I can post from home, and I'm
on computers all the time. So this is my break from reality. Work awhile - refresh the
battery here, go back to work. Sometimes I just leave the page up as an open window and
check it frequently (if work is really hard - then I need to kind of get out of the
problem more often). But it only takes a few seconds to look and post. I skip entire
threads sometimes, and there are some people I just don't read, but for the most part I
really like everyone here, and I'm sure if I met them in person we'd get along great.
Like
FPM, I ALWAYS read C10 posts, but I also always read newbie posts. I'm not gonna be a coot
or codger, either. Besides, you never know who might be able to turn you on to new tunes.
And I have made a lot of very real friends here, and I kinda thought my old man was right
when he said you couldn't have too many friends. So that's another reason to read newbie
posts.
Topics
to ignore - mostly none, but I honestly DO go easy on Led Zeppelin, in deference to a
friend here that really likes them, even though she has impeccable musical tastes
everywher else! If you think Josh hates the Beatles, he doesn't know what it's like to
really, truly despise a band until he uses my brain to listen to Zep!
And
because I like this place so much is why I do things like my Treefort Tapes projects. It
gets people to meet other people and maybe trade or share with them, which makes the
board's personal bonds stronger, and I get a little feedback and get to know what other
Stones fans are thinking.
I
really only post here, though I'll post at Rocks Off if someone mentions my name, and I
think it's relevant.
Since
my job involves surfing the Web, I'm online the entire time I'm at work, which means I've
got a Gasland browser open pretty much the entire time I'm at work.
Like
2000Man said--you work, take a break here, and it doesn't take that long to read/post, so
it's a good breather.
I try
not to even look at a computer over the weekend, cause I'm on one so much during the week.
I read
every post. This is mainly because I like all the threads to be red, so if someone posts
new I can tell very quickly. So, read every thread isn't really true--I at least skim
them. Maybe that will change--as like, today, there's way too many new posts since I was
last here on Friday, that it would be hard for me to get to them all.
Zack
wrote >although my wife scoffs and wonders why I don't correspond more with people I
actually know in the flesh. She doesn't get it.
I think
you get to know people in a totally different way here at Gasland, but it's every bit as
real as "in the flesh". In fact, over time, you get to know people better than
you might if you saw them every day. Studying the way people are affected by the Rolling
Stones is as valid as studying the bumps on their heads or their handwriting. And
sometimes people say things in the privacy of their treefort that they might not
elsewhere. I know I do!
>Dano
asked: How loyal are you to Gasland?
Gasland
is my home and has been from the start. It's the first place I check after my email. I
read it every day that I am at my computer - whether I post or not depends on whether I
have anything to say and the time to say it. I lag behind in reading threads and sometimes
post a response to a thread from last week, as a sort of dialogue with the past. I ALWAYS
read posts by C10 brothers first. I gravitate to posts by the Old Guard but am trying hard
not to become an Old Coot or, worse, a Old Codger.
I post
at Rocks Off and check in there just about every day, too. Gasland and Rocks Off are the
yin & yang. Very different yet sisters. The Mary Cate and Ashley of Stones MBs. If I
HAD to choose only one MB it would be Gasland, but I'm very glad I don't have to choose.
Politically,
Gasland has a more liberal feel to it - which makes me feel more at home. That, and the
fact that I've been here since Day One, makes me 100% Loyal To Gasland.
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Greetings
from a newbie
by KeefSnortingJunkie
Hi Everyone,
I don't know why but it takes me several years (and a chunk of guts) to take the
plunge, probably due to being naturally reclusive, some physical and technical
difficulties, and not come up the perfect handle. Anyway, this is my first time to join
any board in cyberworld, although posting some questions here before the registration was
required.
By the way, thanks for all the interesting discussion and insights, nd sometimes
hilarious and obnoxious interplay. I hope I can contribute too.
Now, a brief episode of my first Stones encounter as an introduction:
You always remember the first experience. The first Stones song to send an electric
shock through my body is JJF (my all-time fav.). I watched the same title movie when I was
12 or 13 and my body felt the something never felt before. Still JJF keeps me under spell
and makes me driving too fast (along with Bitch, Starfuckers, RO, etc)
So to find JJF, I purchased my first Stones LP, Hot Rocks, after cruising five biggest
record stores in the town. Great choice, you might think. But I didn't have much say in
this. My first choice was the tape, constraining by the allowances. But the stores in my
town had less than 10 different records (tapes, LPs and CDs all combined). And except
imported records (which is out of my budget), only Hot Rocks included JJF.
You might wonder what kinds of the record store or the town had no love for one of the
most prolific recording band. The thing is I am from the faraway land across the ocean, in
which none of Stones never visited as far as I know, so called
Anyway, after listening JJF for 70 times, I was starting to worry that listening the
same tracks over and over might have similar impacts like tapes, so I decided to listen
other tracks . And the rest is history.
One other thing about my Hot Rocks LP was that I found out that there are some
scratches in the song lists in the back covers (after the careful perusal in two year
later) . I could smell the foul play. Turns out that the government (the military one in
70's) banned two songs in it– Mother's Little Helper and Street Fight
Long Live Keef
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Not
everyone are fanatics like us
by Deuce (
I was thinking...
We (the hardcore stones fans) attend a Stones concert. We get a setlist with a few
gems, but mostly well known tunes. Because of this, we start to get frustrated and almost
plead to hear a different variety of songs. Then there's the performance aspect. We pick
out little things that the band might have done wrong...say, Mick forgot a line in
"Beast Of Burden" or "Ron didn't bend the string enough on the She's So
Cold solo". Everything from "You could tell Ronnie was out of it" to
"Why can't Keith play a decent solo anymore?".
Well, what if some regular guy decides to go to a show...just a casual fan....the one
that is going strictly for the 'warhorses' and wouldnt mind hearing a few chestnuts if
they play them. Would he even notice these things that we notice? Would he even care? It's
The Rolling Stones on stage in 2005. I'm assuming he will have heard alot of the songs he
came to hear.
The point of my post is...are we being too critical of the band? They're doing the
warhorses...but so what, they are all the bands songs, their good & their timeless and
there's a reason for that and on occasion the band will throw a "bonus" or two
(or three or four..) into the set to mix things up. Being that we're such fanatics, can't
it be kind of hard to judge how good a show actually was? Your such a fan that you come
back noticing the wrong things. Now, I can't speak for everybody...but reading all the
reviews on all the message boards has lead me to the point of this post. We might say
"wow, that wasn't too great of a show"...but to the guy who doesn't post on the
message boards, doesnt know Ron Wood didn't play on every song on Black and Blue even
though he appears on the album cover, and doesnt know what kind of guitar Keith used to
record "Respectable"....was it a good show?
Hey, I saw the band in
The Rolling Stones...coming to a city near you.
Dano
>>We might say "wow, that wasn't too great of a show"...but to the guy
who doesn't post on the message boards<<
I hear where you're coming from. I took a quick piss when Keith was playing his two
songs and the talk at the urinal was like this-
I didn't know Keith sang any songs (Even a casual fan should know this)
These guy's are really still good (Yes they are)
I tried looking at this as a casual fan. And hell yes, these guy's s can still ROCK!
Especially since they took a 8 year break between the '81 and '89 tours, I thought that
they would never tour again. I thought that since I didn't attempt to get tickets for one
of the three
The alternative would suck, Ronnie!
Pavlov’s Dog
When I was in line the woman next to me, who seemed a little crazy told me she had been
seeing the Stones for 30+ years and she was there bacuase she it was their last tour. i
asked her why she thought it was their last tour and she said because Bill Wyman had
cancer. I didn't have the heart to tell her he quit the band over ten years ago.
Then I see a guy who looked about 50 with a Stones 1972 Tour T-Shirt with his teen age
son, so I go up to him and asked him if he saw them on that tour. He said no, this was his
1st, he knew nothing about that tour. So I told him that was one of their best tours ever,
supporting their Exile On Main Street Album. His son asked what songs were on the album si
I rattled off the songs. He says to his dad " Wow, a Real Stones fan!".
Some people go to concerts to go to concerts. That doesn't mean they know a lot about
the band. I've never been much of a concert goer. When I saw Kiss in 1977 I had every
album of theirs, knew every song, knew their bios, band history, etc. When I get into a
band I usually start buying their albums one after another until I discover I am not
really a huge fan or I am and then I get everything. Obviously I have made exceptions,
I've got about 5 or 6 Dylan albums but not all and I have come to realize some bands have
completely changed their format and thus I only but their early stuff,i.e. ZZ Top, J
Geils, Deep Purple, Cheap Trick to name a few but nevertheless I want to understand their
music.
I held my piss until the show ended
Brian1
never piss during the show...some people go because its the thing to do..its the
Rolling Stones the last great act from the early 60's...or they got free tickets...a
friend just went to n.y. show and went wild...he loved them, the best thing he ever
saw..now he went out to buy bang...
i love to just see them... and hear them...its the thrill of being with the band
live..just get into them..
Dano
>>never piss during the show<<
Yes, I try not to but this time I had aisle seats and I really didn't miss much. I
could still hear Keith while I was shaking Herman off!
Shaking it more than twice is considered playing with it, Ronnie?
Undercover
The Stones just keep getting better. I don't know if it is being too critical by
pointing out mistakes they made. It is more like we are showing off by knowing how it
"should sound"
I have not read a review that has been unfavorable of a Stones' concert on this board.
I know I pointed out some mistakes they made in
It is like any other "hobby." We want to be an authority on our subject. In
our case it is the Stones. I know I wrote that Keith missed his cue for SFTD but I also
said it was amusing. It added to the show by humanizing Keith; he is a fella just like us
who can make mistakes. I will remember that moment as one of my favorite Stones memories.
It is like a being with a beautiful woman, we may get mad at her for something she said
or silly thing she did but we still are in awe of her beauty over all.
I know I can listen to the Stones with a critical ear just as I look at a piece of
writing. Critical can sometimes be analyzing, not putting them down.
I think the all of the Stones shows have been great although I may compare one to
another. I may say they played a song better at this or that concert. But I am not being
"critical" in the sense of being unfavorable.
I think we are over analyzing Ronnie because we are worried about him.
In conclusion... a lot of our observations of the concerts and new albums may sound
unfavorable but we say it because we love them, not finding fault in them. Also it is a
way to show we are paying attention to detail and know a piece of work through and
through.
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How
well the Stones treat the fans
by Pdog
I don't
even expect a tour, never did. Last year the
I saw
the band play about 20 songs a night and had great to very good seats every show. Must be
my karma.
$150.00
divided by 20 is $7.50. I think $ 7.50 was the price of a ticket way back in 72'. I
believe that what I pay for a cup od coffee today is twice what minumum wage was then, i
don't know. When I was 13 and saw The Stones the first time I think a days pay at minimum
wage about paid for a ticket. That's not important, I don't know how ticket prices have
been adjusted and compared to inflation. I can make 150.00 in one day now, so for me at
least I'm not digging any financial holes by seeing The Stones.
I felt
more than happy to see my favorite band play all these songs for about $7.50 or a little
more a song, what a bargain. I was so close, and so happy. This is my favorite band...I
was seeing The Rolling Stones.
The fan
site, is free... They put up videos clips of songs , picture interviews ect... How cool to
give me this for free. All I did was buy a ticket for a show and that's it. Someone called
the web site just a t-shirt store. I did buy some stuff from it, but it was pretty cheap.
They were having a clearance sale and since I love The Stones, what's wrong with a
t-shirt? I have a few Giants and Raiders shirts, my kid wears Elmo shirts... I was a
little lost at why it's wrong for a band to sell their shirts. FYI, the T-shirt biz is
very lucrative. A close friend of mine is making a killing doing it. This is funding his
reitremnet not his band, great foresight.
Every
band sells swag and shit and the prices are about the same for shirts at any show I've
been to the past few years.
A read
alot here about ticket prices and fans feeling ripped off. I felt bad for these fans. Why?
I thought it does suck prices may be to high for some people, but I remembered the scene
out front of most of the shows and cheap tickets flying around everywhere. I remember
giving away a ticket to a woman who obviously couldn't afford one, I still get a rush off
remembering watching her face light up. The point, anyone here who actually read what old
timers posted, would know that tickets could be bought cheaply and easy. So if you paid
too much, you paid it and did so willingly. I go to a few shows a year still. In my
lifetime I've seen more shows than I can remember. I suggest everyone do this. It may put
things in perspective for you if you feel cheated. Rock and roll is not dead, in fact it's
just getting started.
So...
The band doesn't need to tour, they are rich and their kids kids are rich... So why do
they do it? It's hard work and when you are twice the age plus of the average touring band
I'm sure it takes a toll and gets old fast. They did it for us. The fans. The casual and
die hard, young and old. They did it so night after night we could hear a few of the
greatest songs ever written and performed. They played Stadiums to thousands upon
thousands, they played clubs to a thousand. Setlist variety, yes. Unbelievable variety.
I'm
grateful, I'm happy. Thanks you guys, Keith, Charlie, Ronnie and the other guy(lol). You
didn't have to do it and you did it for me, and a few of my friends. If I never see The
Stones again, I'm satisfied. They gave me so much joy and I have lot's of albums and tons
of bootlegs to relive and enjoy shows I went too and the ones I didn't.
My one
want and hope. That they do tour again, so I can take my son. Hopefully I can get my Dad
to join us and share the Worlds Greatest Rock and Roll Band with the guy who played them
for me the first time and the guy who showed me the "yeah, yeah, yeah whoo's" in
Brown Sugar are timeless.
Stones4Life
Agree
100% Pdog. But when i was saving up for tickets, I didn't have a job yet. I was just
mowing yards. I remember that $300 took a while. I was workin' and slavin' my life away,
while listening to Stones, in the hope to see the Stones. Then the day finally came when I
could buy the tickets. With $350 dollars in my wallet, I woke up at 5 in the morning, left
with my mom, she dropped me off at a Kroger store in
It all
happened so fast that I don't think I even saw any band members on stage when it was dark.
I didn't even hear the opening music before the band plays. I heard the crowd, and I heard
myself yelling louder than I ever had before. Then the first few notes rang out, it was
Start Me Up. Oh, Damn! I remember thinking "I've been waiting for this moment for 13
fucking years!" and I even teared up a little. I knew what each song would be the
whole night before they even played it, it was a sixth sense almost. When Keith came up, I
yelled so loud. With great volume and sustain, I belted out
"KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEITH!"
with every breath in my lungs. I swore he might just yell back "BEN!" at one
point! I remember right before CYHMK, I knew it would be played and I started screaming
and hollering right before the song, in between the songs. When that first chord rang out,
I became even more ecstatic! I remember someone asked me durring the b-stage, right
durring the Mannish boy intro/warm-up, "Is this Midnight Rambler?" I said
"Mannish Boy by Muddy Waters" I would later tell him before the Stones came back
for the encore "THIS will be Midnight Rambler"
Then,
at the end of the show, after nearly 2 and a half hours of non-ending screaming at full
blast, my voice ceased and we headed towards the parking lot. We couldn't believe what we
just saw. It took a few minutes to get out of the parking lot, but we hit
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Stories about shows you have missed
by LoveYouLive
I am
interested in hearing any stories about concerts you missed, but had planned on attending.
To be clear, these would be shows that you actually had a chance of attending but missed
for whatever reason. I am not really interested in hearing about great shows in the past
that you have liked to attended but didn't. We could all list a bunch of those based on
our current perceptions of past tours and shows. Some reasons why you may have missed the
show or shows:
-
Transportation problems
It
could be any number of reasons, but I am interested in hearing about the ones that got
away? I started thinking about this as I remember my first show in 1981. I went with my
brothers and when my one brother and I went to move upfront when the Stones came on stage,
my brother tried to wake up some guy that was past out on the back of the field. Despite
the nice gesture on the part of my caring brother, the guy stood up took a swing at him
(completely missed) and fell back down & past out again. I am pretty sure this guy
ended up missing most if not all of the show that day.
Fortunately,
I have never missed a show. However, I do regret not going to a few more shows in some
past tours. I am not counting those... so there is nothing worth mentioning specifically.
So
Gassers, are there any good stories about the show that you planned on attending but
missed?
KilledB4Bombay
Here's
one kind of like your experience LYL. Folsum Field,
Brainbell
Jangler
I was
living in
Nospareparts
Wentto
the
Teiz
Missed
Keith and The Wino's because I was broke. Missed the show in Ahoy,