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Subject: Poll Post for the week starting Monday, April 5
Date: Sunday, April 04, 2021
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Poll Post for the week starting Monday, April 5

It’s Poll Post time, which means it’s time to look at this week’s new Rock polls that we’ll be voting on this week. As usual we start off with the Stones weekly poll, where we enter week 1,131 of voting, and where we will continue to rate the band’s songs. This week’s question asks: Rate the Rolling Stones release of the song (long disco version 1 of) “Too Much Blood”, from zero (lowest) to 10 (highest)

“Too Much Blood”, photo from the video cover, which we aren’t rating this week

This week we will rate a song that IMO, was perhaps the Stones worst ever released song. But like I always point out, none of that should matter to you, as I only have one vote in this poll. "Too Much Blood (made in 1982 and this long disco take that we will rate, was released in 1983, and called the "Long Disco Dance Version - 1", with a running time of 12:44), and written by Mick Jagger alone (but credited to Jagger/Richards). It should not be confused with Version 2 of this song's 2 disco takes of it. There is a difference between the 2, with version 2 better, and the difference isn't even close (but don't get me wrong, version 2 is still bad, too... but then again, I do HATE disco). Now also, and very important, is that the two disco versions I'm talking about here should not be confused with the much shorter version of this song that was released on the Undercover album (and by far the best of the 3 takes, but still nothing great). With these two disco messes, one is worse than the other, with version 1 the only one that we will rate this week!

I myself call this take noise pollution of the highest form, that no true Stones' fan should have to ever endure! To this day, as a fan I haven't forgiven MJ for releasing this garbage. I'm sure that Brian Jones turned over in his grave over this! I've noted before that, had this been released by a disco band, then it's 0.4 rating that I gave it in my review years ago, would be a bit higher, like a 1 or a 1.5. But this is the Stones, how could they record this and then allow its release? Well, other than Jagger, the other Stones had no say in the matter, as Jagger was 100% running the Stones at this point and only he decided on what got released by the band. I should note that this Version 1 has almost the same exact lyrics as the short version of the song, other than near it's ending, where Mick over and over again keeps telling us to "Dance with the one-legged woman". Okay Mick, sure, but better yet, why don't you just do that instead, as I refuse to dance to such crap! A warning to those who don' know this song too well or just never made it to its ending before turning it off... but if you plan to click on the link to the song I provide at the voting page (and I always suggest that you do whenever you rate any song), at around the 9 minute part is where it really gets super bad, so beware of the final 3 minutes of this one!

The lineup for this song, which according to Jagger was mainly put together with Bill Wyman in the studio, especially the shorter, album version, is: Mick Jagger - Lead vocals, Rapping, Rhythm Guitar; Jim Barber - Lead Guitar and Rhythm Guitars; Ron Wood - Guitar riffs; Bill Wyman - Bass, Percussion, Keyboards; Charlie Watts – Drums. 2 notes: The horn player isn't noted, and Keith Richards did not appear on this song, but did appear in the official video release for it.

Now, I've said over and over again and will say it one last time here.... It doesn’t matter what I just wrote about this song. You must not let my words influence you at all and just rate it as to what you feel it deserves to get. I mean, many Stones fans love disco and may rate it a 10 perhaps... Okay, let me change that, since that statement is a falsehood. Very few if any Stones fans love disco, but at least some of them can stomach disco, right? Plus, several years ago when I asked for the Stones worst disco song, this one only came in second (the disco version of "Rock in a Hard Place" took first in that poll). So perhaps I'm totally wrong and off base here, but go ahead and give this tune a high rating if you feel it deserves it, as it doesn’t matter what I'm saying, it's how you feel about this song. In fact, looking at the other side of the coin on this, I'll bet that this song will see some high ratings simply because I wrote what I did about it!

So, what will your rating be? To vote on this one, just click on the following link: Stones Weekly Poll. Plus, please remember, the video that is linked to the song at the voting page is there only so you can hear the song before you vote, but it should have no bearing on how you rate the tune, as the song itself is all that matters when we rate only the songs for this poll.

Last week at the Stones poll we answered this question: Rate the Rolling Stones release of the song “Walking the Dog”, from zero (lowest) to 10 (highest)

“Walking The Dog”, photo from the original 1964 UK sheet music cover

Us Stones fans all love this song very much, other than 0.4% of you, but a 10 was the top pick. Click on the link that follows this sentence to check out the full results from this poll: Stones Weekly Poll - week 1,130. Or, to check out the Stones song updated rating standings for this ongoing series, all of that can be viewed at the Stones List Page 5, which you can get to from here: Stones Top Picks - Page 3, list page 5

Now let’s move on over to this week’s Classic Rock Poll, where we enter week 771 of voting, and for this one, as usual, we will vote in 2 different Rock Polls in the week. This week’s first question asks: What is the best rock song dealing with race problems and/or prejudice?

Black and white water fountains. Yes, they were a fact in the southern U.S. States until the mid-1960s when they were finally out lawed by the federal government

The 40 songs listed in this poll pretty much cover the many different kinds of prejudices out there, and not only race, although race hatred is the main kind of prejudice and most of the songs listed are about that problem, but still, not just white and black issues, but everything else. From anti-gay, anti-longhair, to anti-female (notice in the photo above, the signs not only notes where whites and blacks can drink from, but it goes by sex, too!), you know, a bit of everything, including even one song that was an anti-status number. Then there's also some songs listed that were totally positive that are listed, where the lyrics and the singer try to bring peace and friendship to end such hostilities towards others.

We almost have enough songs listed this week to run a multi week poll, but we'll do it in this one week only. So which song will you go with? To make your pick and vote in this week’s first Rock Poll, just click on here: Classic Rock Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 1” to vote in this poll.

For our second Rock Poll this week, we will for the last week, run the Rock Video poll before it goes into hiatus for the rest of the spring and summer, and next week the VS rock polls will return. So, our video question will ask this: Rate the Rod Stewart's video for “Maggie May” (Click here for the video), from zero (lowest) to 10 (highest)

“Maggie May” , from TOTP, L to R Ron Wood, Ian McLagan, Rod Stewart, and John Peel

"Maggie May" was no question, Rod Stewart's greatest song ever, in fact, it's so damn good that it has to go down as one of the greatest rock songs ever made, period!

This true story (for the most part, but the older lady’s name wasn’t really Maggie May), came from the truly great solo (non Faces) LP Every Picture Tells a Story, and it went all the way to #1 both in the UK and in the States, and also in a few other countries, too (like Canada), and pretty much was a top 5 song everywhere else (other than in Germany where it only made it to #11). The studio lineup for this one was: Rod Stewart – Lead Vocals; Ronnie Wood – Electric Guitar, Twelve-string Guitar, Bass Guitar; Martin Quittenton – Acoustic Guitar; Micky Waller – Drums, Cymbals; Ian McLagan – Organ; Ray Jackson – Mandolin; Pete Sears – Celesta.

In the video that we will rate, which was aired on "Top of The Pops", and shown on BBC1 on 27th December 1971, well the vocals were sung live while the music wasn't, as the studio recording of the music was used instead. Also, in the video, the lineup was just a bit different…. We see Rod's old band Faces up on stage with him, including Ronnie Lane on bass, and the very famous UK Deejay John Peel (an Englishman who actually got his DJ start while living in the States for several years, and whom also often hosted "Top of The Pops", just not this show) on the mandolin. At the time of the song’s release, Rod could not remember the name of the studio mandolin player on the song and even noted that on the record sleeve, who was never paid for his work. So Jackson sued him for back payment and won in court. I bet Rod remembered his name after that, you think?

To watch, listen to, and then rate this week’s Rock video, just click on this link: Classic Rock Video Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 2” to vote on this question.

Last week in the first Rock Poll we asked this question Which Rocker was the craziest?

L to R: Keith Richards, Bobby Keys & TV; Ozzy bites bat; Dead & Euronymous (if looks could kill), and Sid Vicious (his cut-up, beat-up Punk looks was all that he really had going for him)

Just like I figured, this was a fun poll to run and it drew a lot of voters to our Rock Poll, with the final tallies of votes for only the second time ever, going past the 2500 marker and yes, in the end, the second highest vote total ever seen in one single weekly poll on the domain!

So, who did we vote for the top crazy person last week? Well, this guy:

Keith Moon, Who else!

Yes, voters went for just “regular crazy” when they made their pick last week, and not for the clinically certified insane (although those who were/are that, got a good number of votes, too)., as Keith Moon of the Who took in 4.1% of the votes in close voting for first p[lace., A true clinically certified nut and murderer, Jim Gordon (the otherwise great drummer from Derek and the Dominos, Traffic, and countless other session appearances) landed in second place with 3.9% of the vote. Ozzy Osbourne (of Black Sabbath, and solo) had the same percentage of votes as Gordon – but one less vote, for a third-place finish.

But where did the other crazies land? You can check out the full, final results from this poll and find out, by clicking on the following link: Classic Rock Poll, week 770, Poll 1 Or, to see the Top 10 list from this poll, click on: Top 10 List Page, Page 16, and go to the bottom of the page.

Last week at our Rock Video poll, we asked this: Rate The Beach Boys' TV video for “Good Vibrations” (Click here for the video),from zero (lowest) to 10 (highest)

“Good Vibrations” , by the Beach Boys

We liked this video from TV very much, giving it a 10, with 33.3% of the vote. You can click on the following link to see the full, final results from this poll: Classic Rock Poll, week 770, Video Poll. Or, to see the updated Video standings, just go here: Rock Video Standings list page. The standings can be found at the very top of the page.

As usual, last but never least in our Poll Post, we talk about this week’s Beatles Poll, where we enter week 522 of polling, and we’ll answer this question: Which is the most underrated song on the Beatles UK Rubber Soul album?

Rubber Soul

This week we start up a miniseries poll that I found in my future poll file for the Beatles poll that I totally forgot about and never got around to running. It was meant to be done years ago and was just looked over by accident (my poll folder is very large, indeed!).

Since there were two separate LPs releases of the Beatles albums in the early days, one released in the U.S. and the real album’s release in the UK and almost all other places - and since I'm trying to get to the end of the Beatles poll, well, I'm not gonna start this series from the band's very beginning. This bullshit of issuing 2 different LPs went on until 1966 when the Beatles, who hated this crap, finally were able to get it to stop, starting in 1967 with Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. So, we will start this series with what Beatle fans considered the band’s best era, after they stopped making pop songs and started to make classic rock music only, that being with 1965's Rubber Soul, as that's the LP we will start off with asking this question. So for this LP and it's follow-up, Revovler, their last 2 studio albums released in 2 versions, we will only look at the UK versions of the two when we ask this question. since that was the versions that the Beatles only wanted released in the first place.

BTW, we already did, back in 2014, ask for the most overall underrated song by the band, and at that time we picked "Hey Bulldog" as the most underrated Beatle tune. So now we will go with their greatest studio LPs and pick the most underrated song from each - and that will take us 8 weeks to do, since there's 8 such albums to ask about. That in turn will push the ending of this weekly Beatles poll, which I was thinking could end as soon as this summer, into the fall at least, since again, I had no clue that this series was lurking in the poll file. If I should stumble upon another such series (not likely), well, that could keep this Beatle poll going even longer, but as far as non-Beatle video polls goes, we are almost done asking non video questions for sure ..... I think!

Anyway, this should be a fun but short poll series, since when it comes to the Beatles, all Beatle fans seem to love all of their music, but which one song per LP was most over looked? Yes, it will be fun to see what we go with each week!

Now, as noted above, Rubber Soul was released in '65 and is looked at as their breakaway LP from pop songs and a true classic rock album, and perhaps one of John Lennon's best, as far as song writing went. By this time, most of the songs were no longer written together by Lennon and Paul McCartney, even if they were still credited in that old matter (and would continue to be until their break-up). The only songs on RS that were actually cowritten by the 2 were "Wait", and "Drive My Car". But if you look at the strongest numbers on here, clearly the best songs came from John, who alone wrote: "Norwegian Wood", "Nowhere Man", "The Word", "Girl", "In My Life", and the more Stones like sounding (lyric wise), "Run for Your Life". Paul alone wrote: "You Won't See Me", "Michelle", and "I'm Looking Through You", while George Harrison was given 2 of his songs a spot on the LP, "Think for Yourself" and "If I Needed Someone". Even Ringo was given a co-writing credited for "What Goes On", a song he sang the lead on, but truth be told, Ringo admitted years later that he only came up with one line in the song. The tune was at first another John Lennon written number that he wrote alone back in 1959 when trying to write a country tune for the first time, and the band almost recorded it in '63. But Lennon didn't care for it too much and then in early '65, Paul decided to rework some of the lyrics to the song's middle eight while Ringo added in his one single line to the tune, and when John read the new lyrics, he suggested that they let Ringo sing the lead on the ditty. So after its release, it became the only credited "Lennon–McCartney–Starkey" song ever made (as Ringo's full, real last name, as you more than likely know, is "Starkey").

Now something you could consider for the most underrated song on this LP, would be the songs that weren't included on the U.S. release of this great LP, those songs being ""Drive My Car", "Nowhere Man", "What Goes On" and "If I Needed Someone" – but, all of these songs were instead released on the Beatles' next North American album, Yesterday and Today, in June of 1966. So, while they were temporary rejected by the heads at the Beatles moronic U.S. Capital label, that didn't mean the fans (nor the Beatles themselves) didn't care for them. They clearly did. But, all 14 songs from this LP must be considered, and only how you feel about each song will be how you decide which one you will vote for. To do that, just click on this following link: Beatles Weekly Poll.

Looking back at last week’s Beatles poll, we voted on this question Who was the most important supporting person working with the Beatles?

Brian Epstein and George Martin The 2 men who helped the Fabs the most? Well, one of them was picked in the end

A week later and I realize this wasn’t the greatest question to ask, since we all know who was gonna be picked (and maybe why I never asked it before). Yes, George Martin came in first by a nice margin over Brian Epstein, who was still a very important person to the band, he did open the door for them, and then with Martin’s help in the studio, the Beatles blew up that door.

To see the poll’s full results, just go here: Beatles Weekly Poll – week 521. Or you can look at this list page at my Lennon site for the results there: Beatle Miscellaneous Poll Page list page.

So with that, we close out the this week’s Poll Post. I just wish there was something good to talk about to close this post out with, but no, like so many of you, I live in the U.S. and where it seems every week now we are having mass killing sprees by nuts with guns, and yes, another 4 people were killed in such a spree (this time in California) including a 9 year old boy who according to his mother who survived the shooting, the boy took the bullet for her. That was such a sad story to hear about and no, not the way I’d like to end this. Something good must have happened this past week in the U.S., right? But just what? Well, one thing that was both good and bad was that the loudmouth conservative Republican pig politician from Florida, and big time Trump supporter, Matt (fuckface) Gaetz, got arrested (again) and charged this time over a sexual relationship that he had with a 17-year-old. So that’s why it’s both bad and good news – good news that this piece of shit will finally have a muzzle placed over his mouth and his days as a U.S. Rep should be over with now (and that’s great news!). Even many Republicans hated this sleaze-bag – long before this week’s newest grand jury indictment of him. So good news for all but the kid he rapped, of course.

You would think that somewhere out there something really good happened in this past week. Yet that’s all I can think of and again, it’s really only bad news overall. But mark my word, somewhere, something good did happen last week!

I do hope you all have a good week ahead, and yes, think positive and for sure something good will happen to you in this upcoming week!


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