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Name: Keno
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Subject: Poll Post for the week starting Monday, Nov 11
Date: Monday, November 11, 2019
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Poll Post for the week starting Monday, Nov 11

Week 1,059 of the Stones weekly poll is here, so let’s kick off the poll asking this question: What was Bobby Keys' Best Saxophone heard on a Stones song?

Bobby Keys

We briefly started to vote on this type of question years ago, asking about the best songs played for the Stones by their supporting cast, asking about Ian "Stu" Stewart and Nicky Hopkins - a full 10 years ago, but then never got back to the question again.... until now. About time!

Now we will only look at those who played on several songs for the band, so I got about another 10 musicians that we will vote on that qualify, but no, we will not vote on this for the next 10 weeks in a row. I already got different questions lined up for this poll for all of December (more slide questions to vote on, as I promised), so for the next 3 weeks, well, we'll look at Bobby Keys this week, and then next up will be the 2 longest serving supporting band members, Chuck Leavell and Darryl Jones. Then sometime early next year we will resume asking this line of questions again.

So for this week we look at the greatest Rock n Roll Tenor Sax player ever, bar none, Bobby Keys, who was a touring musician from 1956, until his death in 2014. Keys noted that he played his sax on Dion’s hit "The Wanderer", back in 1961, and on Elvis Presley's "Return To Sender" in 1962, yet some of the moronic editors at Wki are stating that wasn't true and that others played on those 2 songs, and so thanks to them, that site is reporting that today. Leave to Wiki to spread more false info without any proof, and after the man had passed away, unable to state what he did already state years ago anyway, to clear this up! Well it sure sounds like his playing to me on those songs, and if the man said he played the sax part, well I believe him, since he wasn't the type to make up stories like that. There's an old video up on YouTube of him playing on "The Wanderer" live, too, and it sure sounds like the sax heard on the original cut.

Anyway, the Stones first met Bobby on tour in the U.S. way back 1965, and he, Brian, and Keith all became friends at that time. Yet he won't start to play with them until 1969, when he appeared on the Let it Bleed album for one song, "Live with Me". His last time playing on a Stones studio album for the band was also a long time ago, for 1980's Emotional Rescue, and that surprised me to find out, since he would still play live with them regularly until his death.... with Sweet Summer Sun: Live in Hyde Park, from July 6, 2013, being his last live Stones album that he shows up on. Bobby died on December 2, 2014, just a week before turning 71.

I found 24 studio Stones songs that he played on and those are what we will choose from for this question. Believe me, you are gonna want to vote for several of these songs, since Bobby was just so good at blowing sax! There will not be links to YouTube videos on the voting page, since I would have to code 24 entries, so when we do have this many choices, I just remind everybody that pretty much all 24 of these songs are up on YouTube and you can find them there if you would like to hear them first before you vote. But if you do, remember, we are not rating the videos, only comparing the songs. To vote in this poll, just click here: Stones Weekly Poll.

Looking back at the results for our Stones poll last week, the question was: “Gunface” vs “Hand of Fate”. Which Stones’ Outlaw Rock song about handgun violence is better?

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“Gunface” and “Hand of Fate”

First, I only noticed tonight as I put this post together, that at this poll last week, I had the poll week down wrong on the poll question, it was week 1058 and not week 1057. In over 20 years of running this Stones poll, that’s only the second time I ever done that!

Anyway, I’m back to picking the non-winners myself in these polls, as I went with “Gunface” as my pick last week and it lost out in the end by one full percent point. To see the full final poll numbers from this question, just click here: Stones Weekly Poll - week 1,058. You can also see the top pick listed on the Stones VS List Page 2 under “Battle of the Stones Songs!”, about a quarter of the way down the page.

Okay, let’s look at this week’s Classic Rock Poll, where we enter week 699, and as usual we will vote in 2 polls in this one week for this poll. The first Rock poll question asks: What is the best rock/pop song that has food in its title (Part 3 of 4)

This week we vote in Part 3 of this 4 part poll series. This will be the last week of voting on new songs, then for Part 4 the top picks from Parts 1 thru 3 will go up against each other. Now as noted in the first 2 parts, we aren’t voting on the titles here, only on the songs, but the songs has to have a food item noted in its title to make the list. So it’s whichever song you like best, and not whatever title you like best.

To cast your vote, just click there: Classic Rock Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 1” to vote on this question.

This week for the video polls, we ask: Rate The Byrds music video of “Mr. Tambourine Man”

The Byrds, surrounded by bird houses

Written by Bob Dylan and released in March of 1965 by him, the Byrds cover, which was their debut single, came out just a few weeks later, on April 12, 1965 and was dubbed "folk rock", giving rise to that term and a brand new genre of music. Whereas Dylan wrote four verses to this song, the Byrds skipped 2 of them in covering the tune, but they did such a good job in singing this one, that nobody noticed the missing lyrics at all, other than Dylan freaks. Dylan himself loved what he heard on their cover. So did most other Rock music fans, as The Byrds single hit number 1 in the U.S. on the Billboard Hot 100, and also number 1 on the UK Singles Chart, too, making it the first recording of a Dylan song to reach number 1 on any pop music chart!

It’s interesting watching this old clip of the Byrds playing this classic song, which IMO, is the best cover of any Dylan song ever made, period, and they - not Dylan, is why this song became a classic song in the first place - they alone were who made this song great. It's also interesting looking at these guys today and seeing how much they changed as the years went by, other than maybe in David Crosby's case, as he really didn't change too much at all, other than in ‘65 when this was made, he didn't here have his soon to be famous, trademark bushy mustache yet. Plus of course, the band's lead singer, Gene Clark, and drummer Michael Clarke, both died at rather young ages, so they haven’t been around for years now. I should also note that on this song, the lead singer wasn't even Clark, but the band's lead guitarist, Roger McGuinn (known back then as "Jim McGuinn"), who actually sings the lead on this one instead. But yes, McGuinn looks totally different today (heck, he looked totally different by as early as the mid '70s), but no, he isn't wearing his granny glasses yet, either (a look that he really started and not John Lennon, about 6 months later). Bassist Chris Hillman, also looks totally different here from today, heck, he and Clarke almost look like boys and not men in this video. Then again, drummer Clarke was still a teen here, only 19 when this show took place… But an interesting thing on Hillman, is how in the early years of the Byrds, he never sang at all, not even backing vocals, and not until the last few years in the Bryds did he start to sing some, after Crosby left the band. Yet as you know, he went on (after being in the The Flying Burrito Brothers, and then the short lived Manassas band with Stephen Stills) to became a famous country lead singer/guitarist in the Desert Rose Band, where he would also play mandolin, too; yet he no longer played bass anymore after leaving the Byrds.

Now this video that we will rate, actually has some info on Youtube that comes with it (that's rare), noting it was The Byrds third appearance on TV, and yet this performance took place just 4 days after their first TV appearance that happened on May 8, 1965 on "Shivaree", which at the time was only shown in the LA area of California. But this appearance was actually their first time on nationwide U.S. TV. Yet YouTube doesn't note which TV show this performance was from, either! I recall watching this show anyhow, and it comes from the then very popular NBC-TV show that was called Hullabaloo. At Youtube they note something true and unusual seen here, in that this clip shows Gene Clark playing a Fender Xll 12 string guitar (when mainly after this, although he was a guitarist himself, he would only appear on stage playing a tambourine, yet on this song about a Tambourine Man, he plays guitar and not the tambourine!)... It's also true that Gene & David's mics on here are not in the mix at all, not until the second chorus. You can clearly see them singing but you can only hear Jim/Rodger. That's a major problem, and yes, they were singing live here - but - with this clear error in this video, should we hold that against the Byrds and subtract points when voting for this clip? Well it's a major mistake made by the show's director, and while I won't hold it against the band (you can't), I bet for some watching this, that it will take away any chance of this clip getting a 10 rating, if only for that reason, which is totally understood, too, even if the band had no control over this.

I also watched the performance of the Byrds doing this song on Ed Sullivan 6 months later, after it hit #1, but on that one they aren't singing live, so we will rate this one instead. The crazy thing is they all look younger on Sullivan’s show, and yet that appearance was made 6 months after the video that we will rate. That was thanks to their new Beatle-like haircuts that they were wearing by the end of 1965, the cut made them look younger. But one other thing that I have to wonder about with this performance video that we will rate, is why the band allowed those stupid bird houses to surround them up on the stage; why did The Byrds allow that to fly (pun intended)? Oh well, this clip will still get a high rating from me anyway, how about you?

As usual, there will be a link at the voting page so you can see this video before you vote. So to do that and vote in this week’s second Rock poll, just click there: Classic Rock Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 2” to vote on this question.

Oh, one last thing Byrd related… I did want to mention and almost forgot, is some new news that I ran into I'll share here (since I always love when something old comes back, especially when it involves a person long departed), is the reissue of the 1974 solo Gene Clark record No Other, which was released back in the '70s and then pulled by the record company after only a few months. Today this impossible to get LP (other than in boots) is looked at by fans as "a lost masterpiece" and Clark's wife stated that The Stones' 1973 album Goats Head Soup, heavily influenced him to record this LP in the way it turned out. I've never heard it myself, so yes, I want to get my hands in ths soon and hear it, as I love GHS! Of course, some famous musicians lend a hand in making this LP with Clark who also aren't around anymore, so that makes this album special and worth a listen. You can read up more on this reissue, here: No Other.

Now let’s look back at last week’s 2 Rock polls, starting with the first poll question that asked: What is the best rock/pop song that has food in its title (Part 2 of 4)

7 songs made the cut for Part 4 from last week’s voting. They are: Brown Sugar by the Stones (25.3%), Sugar Pie Honey Bunch by The Four Tops ( 9.5%), American Pie by Don McLean (9.4%), Jelly Roll Blues by Hot Tuna (9.4%), The Lemon Song by Led Zeppelin (9.3%), Incense & Peppermints by the Strawberry Alarm Clock (9.1%), and Glass Onion by The Beatles (at 6.5% of the vote) .

To see the rest of the results from this poll, just go here: Classic Rock Poll 1, week 698.

Looking back at last week’s Video Rock poll, the question asked: Rate The Honeydrippers official music video of “Sea Of Love”

Robert Plant, standing sideways, while looking into the camera

My oh my, last week’s rating for this video was only an “8”! Actually such a rating isn’t really so bad – you would think, but at these Rock polls for rating these videos, anything less than a 10 rating seems to be a failure, and with that 8 rating last week, this ties for the second lowest rating given by fans for these questions – out of 33 video poll rating questions voted on before this one, 24 scored 10s, and up until last week, only 2 videos had scored a rating lower than a 9, so this is the third one to do that now…. And yes, I think we can all blame the guy in the thong for that!... LOL

To see the full, final results from this poll, just go here: Classic Rock Poll 1, week 698. Or you can check out where the video ended up in the video poll standings by clicking here: Top Ten Lists, Page, 16, the results will be found up on top of the page, it’s the second list you will see on the page.

To close out our Poll Post, as usual, we look at the Beatles poll. This week we enter week 450 of voting, and we’ll answer this: Rate the artwork for the front cover of the Beatles LP, The Beatles' Second Album(U.S.)

The Beatles' Second Album is the second Capitol Records album of Beatles songs released in the U.S., but the title was once again a lie as far as its title went. This may have been Capitol’s second Beatle album, but it was the third Beatles release in the U.S., and not the second. But I guess this cover was somewhat interesting, as it had several small close-up photos of the band on the cover.

How will you vote on this one? Just click here to make your pick and rate the LP: Beatles Weekly Poll.

In last week’s Beatle poll….we answered this question: Rate the artwork for the front cover of the Beatles LP, Introducing... The Beatles(U.S.)

Well after last week’s vote, I see that I’m not the only one who disliked that cover, as pretty much the lowest rating that I can ever recall seeing in a Beatles poll, took the top spot with a score of only a “5”.

To see the full results, just go here: Beatles Weekly Poll – week 449. Or to see the final results on the Beatles List Page, click on: Favorite Beatles Album Covers List Page for the top pick.

And with that, we come to the close of another Poll Post. Monday here the U.S. is a Federal holiday, that being Veterans Day, so if you work for the federal government at least, or at any banks, etc, you’re off from work, so enjoy your extra day off! Lucky me, I get to go see my doctor again in the afternoon, to see how my latest round of old man surgery I had done 2 weeks ago, solved my problem or not. I think it did, but this getting old crap sucks, to say the least!

I thank all of you who take the time to vote each week in our 4 polls! I hope all of you have a great upcoming week, and if you are off for the holiday, enjoy your extra day off!

Keno

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