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Subject: Poll Post for the week starting Monday, Feb 4
Date: Monday, February 04, 2019
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Poll Post for the week starting Monday, Feb 4

Okay, so right here we have it, the very first Poll Post posted on this new named message board, which for now is going to be simply called “The Poll Post Board”. But wait, since we can all see that everywhere we look on this board, is the old Gasland name, so does that mean we are still in the Land of Gas?..... Nope, Gasland is no more, but until sometime late this week the old Gassy name will still be up until I can get all that changed. I explain already why there’s a delay, I just hope it can all be worked out by mid-week. Plus yes, there’s still a chance we might need a new, different board in the next week if this old board can’t be reprogramed, but I still don’t know that yet and what you are seeing at the moment was expected to be the case for this week anyway.

Now to get this week’s Poll Post off and running, one thing will remain the same and the way it always has been. That is, and as usual, I’ll start off the poll post talking about the Stones poll first, and this week we enter week 1,019 of polling, and at this poll I always ask 2 different poll questions in the week. So for the first poll, here’s the new question: Rate the Stones live performance video for “(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction”

This is a live video being sold today by 'Reelin' In The Years' Archives, and sadly, the video shown online today is ruined, thanks to the sales people at 'Reelin' In The Years', who are in control of it. They got their damn advertisements all over the online video. Because of that, I won't ever consider buying anything from them, even if I’m sure the ads aren't on the product you buy. So while you will have to endure that crap while you watch this, just don't consider it when rating the live take of this song and the Stones performance, since the Stones and the original producers of the video had nothing to do with that added in garbage.

This video comes from the earliest known filmed live concert performance of the band playing “Satisfaction”, from a show that took place in 1965 shortly after the song was released... Some of the cameras angles could be a lot better, too, but then again, this was 1965 and that's how things were sometimes filmed back them. I don’t think anybody filming this thought that this would still be viewed 54 years on down the line. If they knew that, maybe they would have done a better job in filming it.

What I do like about this video, is how well you can hear Brian Jones playing his fantastic rhythm guitar on this song. It's one of only 2 live takes of the song (that I’ve seen, and the other one is even better, but I can’t find it anyway online anymore) where you can hear his guitar well enough. Very long ago at the Gas board we had a thread where we talked about this. On the original recording of the song, you could barely even hear BJ playing, and it wasn't until years later when the song was re-mastered that you finally could, and that's when many of us realized how great Brian's guitar contributions were to this number. But with that said, the main lead guitar on this was of course played by Keith Richards, and he did a dandy on it, no question about it.

Then of course there was the mistaken lyric on this song that is still debated to this day. Is it "I can't get no girl reaction", or "I can't get no girlie action"? It was "girlie action" that most heard, but the Stones management claimed back at the time of its release that it was actually "girl reaction", and they said this so the song won't get censored, and Mick was then falsely quoted shortly after that, saying it was "girl reaction", too, when he was actually talking about a different part of the song (about the "losing streak" the girl was on, which meant she was on her period and he couldn't get any "girlie action" from her cause of that). The printed lyrics that their management put out also stated this (of course), many took that lyric as meaning that Mick was gay and the "girl reaction" that he couldn’t get meant he couldn’t get a hard on (aka an erection) for any girls. But if you listen to the lyrics closely, its "girlie action" that he wants and can't get... but he does try, and try, and try. But then again, there is yet another studio take of this song out today where it sounds clear to me that Mick is singing "girl reaction", too. Kind of ridiculous that over 50 plus years later that this lyric has never been cleared up totally, and this isn't the first time Mick and company have sang more than one lyric for the same line of a song of theirs (think of the backing vocals of "who who" vs ”woo woo" from SFTD, for starters).

This of course was the one song that made the Stones big everywhere. The lyrics were written by Mick, with the main guitar riff coming from Keith - written in his sleep (so the story goes).

Now one sad thing with all of the Stones songs that came out before about 1968 or so, is that there's so few videos to use for a poll question like this one, since there's so little out there to begin with. They didn't make any real videos at all before '67 or so, and we got to rely on live takes of the song instead - or the usually poorly made "lyric videos" instead (that contain the wrong lyrics sometimes!). So again, while there's few live takes of this song on YouTube, most of them aren't as good as this one, since the sound is dubbed. On this video, they are heard actually playing live here, so you can hear that live music in the vid well, even if 'Reelin' In The Years' ruins the video with their stupid ads. But so goes life in the free world of capitalism!

To watch the video and then rate the video for this week’s first Stones poll, just click on: Stones Weekly Poll and when there, then click on Poll 1.

For the second Stones Poll this week we ask this: Sticky Fingers vs Blue and Lonesome, which album do you like best?

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This week "The Sticky Polls" returns to the fray, featuring the only album left that has an undefeated record of 21-0 in these battles, that being the Stones masterpiece, 1972's release of Sticky Fingers. With only 3 matches left counting this one, it's looking good that it will hold on to first place and keep it's undefeated status, but first, the last 3 matchup polls must be conducted until we will see for sure how it all works out. But SF has already taken on all of the other big Stones LPs in these battles already, and if it beat out LIB, SG, and Exile already, what other big LPs are left that haven't been voted on yet? I'm not even sure what the last 2 LPs it gets to go up against after this week's matchup, but I know which of the heavy hitters that it took on and won already, too.

Blue and Lonesome is seeing its second week in a row of action, since it in part has the most matches to still run, since it didn't come out till December of '16, years after these matchup polls were first started. Although a well-received album for the Stones by their fans, it isn't doing well in these fan voted on matches, either, with a losing record of 7-13, while sitting down in 18th place in the standings.

To check out the song list for each album, for Exile on Main Street , click here: SF, and for Blue and Lonesome, click here: B&L.

To vote in this week’s second Stones poll, just click on: Stones Weekly Poll and click on Poll 2.

Looking back at our first Stones poll last week, we answered this question: Rate the Stones official promo video for “Out Of Tears”

Very close voting in this one, and a “10” ended up the top pick by just one. To see the full final results from this poll, please click here: Stones Weekly Poll 1 - week 1,018. The final results to this poll can also be found here: Stones Fans Top Pick List, Page 2, where you can also check out how all of the other videos that we have voted on in the past, have ended up, too.

The second Stones poll last week asked this question: Exile on Main Street vs Blue and Lonesome, which album do you like best?

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So we only have so many of these matches left, and it seems at this point in time that most of us can predict how most of these matchups will end up long before the voting is over with, since the matches left aren’t great ones, as we already voted on all of the great ones months and even years ago.

To see just how much of a landslide EOMS won by last week, click on this link: Stones Weekly Poll 2- week 1,018. Or, you can see all of the final results and see the updated, current album standings at the Stones VS Page 1.

Let’s now move on over to the Classic Rock Poll, where we enter poll week 659, and in this one we also vote on 2 different poll questions in one week. For the first Rock poll, well awhile back I came up with a bunch of Rock polls that I felt were a bit on the negative side question wise, so I held off on having them voted on one week after another. But asking these questions here and there is fine of course, and with that noted, this week's first question that maybe some might look at as being a bit negative, is this: Who was the luckiest or most overrated musician/singer/band in rock music to make it big?

So for this week we pick the luckiest or most overrated musician/singer/band. Now yes, back in December we asked for the most untalented musician/singer/band, but this question has nothing to do with talent and is a totally different question, and not really that negative, not really.

Now the word "big" in the question is very important here, since if a band was known - but didn't make it big, that band isn't listed.... Then also, we are also not looking for the worst singer or worst musician in this poll, either; that's another future (and more negative) poll that I could run in time here (or did we already vote on the worst singer yet?).

Now I know some will dislike some who are listed in this one, and will say that a few names listed shouldn't be included, but this list is what I see as the lucky ones (again, that doesn't mean untalented, other than maybe for the bands listed), but by lucky, we are looking at artists in bands who never would had made it big on their own.... and in some cases, solo acts that somehow did make it big on their own thanks to the luck of having a great manager - or a manager or promotor who was in the right place at the right time for them. Some examples for how and why some made this list. First, I know several Stones fans will say that Gram Parsons shouldn't be listed, but IMO, while he was a real nice hippie dude, he was mainly just a very super rich trust fund kid who directly because of that, got to meet and know the right people (like his meeting Keith Richards) and he got his foot in the door and then made a name for himself for that reason only. While he did have talent (perhaps more than any other artist listed this week), I can still see that he was most lucky in making it because of his families' money and that trust fund that he lived on, which allowed him to make records in the first place. Richard Carpenter would be another example of having a lot of luck. He also had some talent too, as a keyboardist and as a songwriter, as he wrote a few of their hit songs. But - he was still very lucky indeed that he had his kid sister, who could sing real fine - and she was clearly the only reason why he made it big. Talk about riding one's little sister's coattails.

So it's the "lucky" angle that we are getting at in this poll the most. But, there are also 8 entire bands that overall I felt did suck some, and they are listed, too. Plus I'm sure there are others that should be listed that maybe I missed? With a few exceptions, most of these acts/artists are from years ago only, but some aren't. I am missing some modern day artists, yes, as there are sadly a lot from today, including most rappers. But this is mainly a Classic Rock question, even if not all listed are classic rockers.

Now some will say Yoko Ono should be listed, yet I disagree totally. Why? Well for starters, she did have talent, even if many Beatle fans disliked her because in part they feel she lead to the breakup of the Beatles. But the thing with Yoko was that she was already a known Avant-garde artist before she met John. Yeah, she was still lucky to meet John, but, and this is a big butt, while the degree she made it as an artists would have been the same had she not, the truth of the matter is, while she's one of the most known woman today, it's not because of her music, not at all. Just think about it, she never made it that big for the music she made, never, and if she didn't make it big for the music she put out, then how can she be placed on this list, as that’s what this question is about? Now on the other hand, Linda McCartney, who was a well-known rock photographer, who had affairs with several rockers, including Mick Jagger, before she settled with hubby Paul after all of that and, well you know the rest of that story. Yet she never would have made it as a photographer if not for her family's money, and after that she won't have been playing in a big band like Wings – well okay, trying to play the keyboards - had it not been for Paul. So she is listed, along with 29 others who were lucky, too.

To make your pick and vote, just click here: Classic Rock Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 1” to vote on this question.

For our second Rock poll this week, we have the Rock VS poll, which asks this question: “Chapel of Love”' by The Dixie Cups vs “Hey Paula” by Paul and Paula, which song about getting married is better?

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Now here are 2 very old hit singles from the early '60s. "Hey Paula" came first, released in 1962 and written by Ray Hildebrand, who would be the Paul in the song, since he wrote it for a girl he liked named Jill Jackson, or "Paula" in the song. The song's title was at first written as "Paul and Paula". Hildebrand and Jackson then recorded the song together, and their producer changed the song's title and then took the original title and had it used as the duo's new name, "Paul and Paula", and released the song with their names changed to that. The song went on to become a #1 hit single exactly 53 years ago to this day. But the 2 never did marry and they broke up after their second album was released.

"Chapel of Love" by The Dixie Cups was a #1 hit in the U.S and Canada in 1964, while reaching #22 in the UK at the same time. The song was written by Jeff Barry, Ellie Greenwich and Phil Spector. It has been covered by many and was first recorded by Darlene Love in April 1963. The Dixie Cups cover was released a year later in April of ‘64. It stayed at #1 on the U.S. charts for 3 weeks, knocking the Beatles out of first place in doing so.

Barbara Ann Hawkins, Rosa Lee Hawkins, and Joan Marie Johnson were the 3 singers on the song and for The Dixie Cups.

The videos for each song will be, as usual found in the voting booth/page, and while the one for Paul and Paula might seem somewhat corny today, just remember, we aren't rating the vids here, only the song itself, so just listen to the music and singing for both songs and then chose the one you like best.

So which one of these songs dealing with getting married do you like better? To vote in this week’s second Rock poll, just click here: Classic Rock Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 2” to vote on this question.

Looking back at last week’s 2 Rock polls, the first question asked: What is the best song with “sister” in the title?

This was a fun poll for sure, with “Little Sister” by Elvis Presley beating out “Sister Morphine” by Stones for first place, and with “Your Sister Can't Twist (But She can Rock n Roll)” by Elton John coming in third.

To see the full results from this poll question, just click here: Classic Rock Poll 1, week 658. Or to see the Top 10 finish only, you can do that at: Top Ten Lists, Page, 14.

Looking back at last week’s VS Rock poll, the question was: “Stairway to Heaven” by Led Zeppelin vs “Knocking on Heaven's Door” by Bob Dylan, which song with “Heaven” in the title do you like better?

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Damn, it was a close battle for the entire week and we ended up with a dreaded tie in this one by the time the poll finished up. Usually after a week of voting, we do learn a thing or 2 from these polls, but just not this week I guess.

To see this poll’s results, just click here: Classic Rock Poll 1, week 658. Or to see the results on the list page only, please go here: VS Page 3, List Page, 15.

We rap up this poll post as we always do with our Beatles poll, and for week 410 the question asks: Rate the Beatles live performance video for “All My Loving”

Written by Paul in May of 1963, it's found on the Fabs second studio album With the Beatles. Paul sings the main lead vocal, with Lennon on the harmony vocals and lead guitar, other than at the bridge where it's George playing the lead. This take of the song was recorded live, but today all I can find is the studio track of the song playing with it. Still it isn't bad at all to watch and enjoy.

McCartney noted that this was the first time he ever wrote a song’s lyrics before he had any music written for it first. Lennon has said this was one of his favorite McCartney songs, while John’s guitar playing on here is excellent indeed. The song may or may not have been about Paul’s then girlfriend, actress Jane Anser.

To vote in this week’s Beatle poll, please go here: Beatles Weekly Poll.

In last week’s Beatle poll, the question was: Rate the Beatles live performance video for “Please Please Me”

Once again, another Beatle video poll is run and the top score at the close of voting was the same as it has been in 16 of the 18 other videos that we have rated in the past. Yes, another 10 it was! To see the full result from last week’s Beatles poll, just click here: Beatles Weekly Poll – week 408. Plus to view exactly how all 19 videos that we voted on so far have done, just click on here for: The Beatles Videos and Movies Page, located over at the Lennon site.

So that does it for this week’s poll post. It was an interesting last few days for the domain and Stones site with the Gasland board closing down on Thursday. I realize it looks like it’s all still up (well, it is) since the main changes haven’t been made yet, but they will be worked out hopefully by the end of this week.

I just did sent out new board passwords so that if you would like to post a reply to this Poll Post, well please do. Replies as usual can cover anything that I cover in the post, including the close. Passwords went out to any of the current Gassers who posted in January. If you didn’t get one and are a Gasser or former Gasser in good standing, then just drop me an email and I’ll get one of the 2 new password that we will all use, to you. Just note that the password is for posting replies to the Poll post and also in any other thing that I might post. But, please do not post anything using the old posting form on the board’s Home page. Anything posted on there will be deleted, as Gasland is closed. That old form will be removed in the next few days, but until it is, please respect my wishes. Once we actually get the new look to this board in place, and after all of that is over with, then anybody else who wishes to also get a password to post replies will be invited to do so at that time.

I thank you all for voting in our polls in the past and I hope you will all continue doing that in the future!

Keno

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