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Name: pluto
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Subject: RE: RE: RE:What else? {sc}
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2018
Time: 1:42:02 PM
Remote Address: 92.3.192.91
Message ID: 318277
Parent ID: 318275
Thread ID: 318114
Well I don't know if their best lyrics are always lifted from somebody else without crediting them. As far as using phrases that are in common usage goes, probably most of them would be un-attributable.
You ask about 'never kept a dollar....always burned a hole etc', well that's just a play on a well known and used saying. When I was young I was always desperate to get out and spend my 'pocket money' (I suppose you guys might call it an allowance)? My dad used to say 'it's burning a hole in his pocket'. That's what it means, you just want to spend it, no thought for anything silly, like saving. It's a well used phrase here, or used to be anyway.
Like I say, the Stones' output is littered with the use of such phrases, off the top of my head, 'She saw me coming', and 'Back of my hand' from ABB are both well known phrases (here anyway, and I suppose one has to remember that these guys are British regardless of their long relationship with the U.S.). If I take the former then that just means you've been taken for a fool, as if you had 'Naive' tattooed on your forehead. If you pay over the odds for something, someone might say to you 'They saw you coming'. The latter just means something you are extremely familiar with i.e. you know something like you know the back of your hand. Both these phrases are well known.
I don't know, but I think it's deliberate on Jagger/Richards part to use so many well known phrases (and they are everywhere in Stones songs), it maybe gives their songs a familiar feel or something, and we're drawn to the familiar. It's maybe similar to Chuck Berry's style, i.e. write about things your targeted market is familiar with and concerns them.....and in Chuck's case, name as many cities and States that you can fit in lol
One obvious use of someone else's lyric without crediting the writer (As far as I'm aware) would be the 'you make a dead man come' line in 'Start Me Up', that of course is taken almost word for word from blues shouter Lucile Bogan's 30's song 'Shave 'em Dry'. Bogan was long dead by the time 'Start Me Up' was written, so maybe they didn't feel the need to credit her for a line. They have of course credited lots of blues people over the years, one way or another. I heard somewhere that Richard's 'Good to be here, good to be anywhere' line, was taken directly from one of his comedy heroes, Max Miller, an English Music Hall favourite. Anybody able to confirm that?
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