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Name: Keno
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Subject: SG/VL/DC/TRSN/Leon Russell/CCRider/Lennon
Date: Sunday, March 05, 2017
Time: 10:56:53 PM
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Time to kick off this week’s poll post by talking about the 2 Stones polls first. This marks week 919 of the Stones poll and the first poll question will ask this: Some Girls vs Tattoo You, which album do you like the best?
vs Time to kick off a brand new Stones album VS series and this time around we will look at 1978’s Some Girls, the last of the great Stones releases. This new series will simply be called the "Some Girls" polls. I almost went with the Stones newest album Blue & Lonesome instead of SC for this brand new series, but decided to wait until the next new round starts up to run that one, and give all of us fans a bit more time to get to know the new LP better. Besides, there are still 6 other Stones albums left that haven't gotten a chance yet to host this series yet. Hard to believe I hadn’t gotten around to SG yet, although the LP has been in many matchups already in other series. Its record is 7-4, good for 10th place, and this week it goes up against Tattoo You, another popular LP that hasn't hosted a series yet. TY is at 6-3-1, a couple of spots ahead of SG, if my calculations are correct.
To see the song list for each album, for Some Girls, click on: SG, and for Tattoo You, click here: TY.
To cast your vote in this first Stones poll, just click on: Stones Weekly Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 1” to vote on this question.
This week at the regular Stones album VS poll, where each week we bring back an older series to do battle once again, we ask: December's Children vs The Rolling Stones, Now!, which album do you like the best?
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So we return to the "December's Poll (and everybody's)" series, featuring the December 1965 U.S. release of December's Children. So far in the standings, DC has an even record at 5-5 and is in 14th place. It goes up against The Rolling Stones, Now! which was also released in '65, in February, and which is doing just a bit better than DC in these matchups at 6-4, and four spots ahead of DC in the standings.
To see the song list for each album, for December's Children , click on: DC, and for The Rolling Stones, Now!, click here: TRSN!.
To cast your vote in this second Stones poll, just click on: Stones Weekly Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 2” to vote on this question.
At the Stones two polls last week, at the first one, the question asked was: What is the most underrated song on the Stones Beggars Banquet album?
One more week and more very close polling for the most underrated song on a Stones LP, and I can’t say I was surprised that would be the case for this LP. In the end, “Factory Girl”, was chosen by 3 votes over “Jigsaw Puzzle”.
You can check out the full, final results from this poll, here: Stones Weekly Poll - week 918 poll 1. You can also check out all of the results (so far) for the most underrated songs from each album at this page: http://www.keno.org/rolling_stones/stones_fans_top_picks_1.htm. Plus yes, we will return in time, after a short break, with more of this question until we cover all of the studio Stones albums.
Looking back at last week’s second Stones poll, the question was: Voodoo Lounge vs England's Newest Hit Makers, which album do you like the best?
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It was good to see the Stones debut LP finally get another win in this series, although the voting was close enough for most of the week. To see the final result from last week’s poll, just click on here:Stones Weekly Poll - week 918, poll 2. I’ll also add the results from this poll to the standings at the Stones VS Page 1, where at the top of the page you can check out the updated standings on how each album has done in these long running VS polls.
Let’s now move on over to this week’s Classic Rock Poll, where it’s week 559, and just like we do at the Stones poll, we run 2 poll questions a week at this one, too. The first poll’s question will ask this: On what song did Leon Russell shine the brightest?
This week in the sessions players poll, where we been looking for the best work performed by a session player, we look at Leon Russell, who was another of the giants of session players, and who also by the late '60s became a popular solo artist on his own, too. Russell could play many different instruments, yet many mainly remember him as a great keyboard player, since he was tops at piano. Yet when Bob Dylan made his first live appearance in several years after breaking his neck, at the 1971 Concert for Bangladesh, he told George Harrison he wanted Russell playing bass guitar for him, because he felt that Russell was the best bassist at MSG that night, even with several great bassists already there appearing at the show. Yet as a session player, it was usually his piano playing that producers wanted him the most for.
In the poll choices we will look at both his solo work and session work together. For the session songs listed in the poll, the choices notes who he played with on the songs. I'll note that the song "Get a Line on You", was a song that Leon wrote the music to, while Mick Jagger wrote the lyrics about Brian Jones and his wasting away, while Jones was still alive, and in time the tune of course turned into "Shine A Line", after Jones died, with slightly different lyrics to reflect his passing. But all of the music had already been written by Russell in 1968, for a song he was working on for his first solo album, and which Jagger heard while visiting a session Russell was recording the LP at. Jagger felt the lyrics he had already wrote would fit with the music he was hearing and told that to Russell, who agreed to let Jagger use his music. What is listed in the poll choices on this song is the first take of the song that was recorded during the noted session above for Leon's first solo album, and it features Leon on both guitar and piano, with Mick on the vocals. This version has nothing to do with the Stones; it’s looked at as a solo Russell song featuring Jagger on vocals. The second version was recorded by the Stones a few weeks later and features Jones on slide guitar, Bill Wyman on bass, along with Jagger's vocals, and Russell on piano. Jimmy Miller played the drums. Both versions were recorded in early 1968. The Stone then did a third take of the song in March of '69 without Russell or Jones. Since the Stones first version featuring Leon was never released, I say go with the Russell take of the song which was, but if you rather go with the second Stones take (which is on YouTube), that's okay too, since Russell's piano is upfront and very prominent on both his and the Stones first version. Also note that the final version of the song, released as "Shine A Light", doesn't feature Russell so it isn't listed in the poll choices. Billy Preston played the keys on that one, and Russell was never credited for his work in coming up with the music, as the Jagger/Richards tag was placed on every Stones song back then, even though Richards had nothing at all to do with the song, he didn't play on any version of it, with Mick Taylor playing all the guitar parts on "Shine A Light".
In this poll you will have 29 choices to choose from. To vote and see the choice list, just click here: Classic Rock Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 1” to vote on this question.
For this week's VS poll, we leave the "Same title, different song" polls behind after 12 weeks of running it (time for a break) and ask a new questions which is this: 'See See Rider' by The Animals vs 'C.C. Rider' by Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels, which cover version was better? On first look, this looks like another same title different song VS poll, but no, it isn't. The 2 songs listed are the very same song, even if the titles are spelled differently for each cover. Both titles are pronounced the exact same way and again are the very same song. Officially this song was titled "See See Rider" and was written and recorded way back in 1924 by the Mother of the Blues, Ma Rainey, and since then it has been covered by countless blues and rock artists using both titles. The actual title was at first called "Easy Rider", as back then that referred to a woman who was a prostitute, or a female who had liberal sexual views (and what the woman in the song was about), but the alterative term that was used back then for "Easy Rider" was "See See Rider" and that's the title that was used instead, since it was looked at as being more hip a term. By the 1940s the song started to be also called "C.C. Rider", too, which has nothing to do with a loose woman, and I'm not sure why it stuck, other than to shorten the title, which wasn’t very long in the first place. I assume those who retitled it "C.C. Rider" didn't understand what the song was about to retitle it in that matter, and Rainey had passed away by then and couldn’t protest the title change.
The original version of the song sung by Rainey also had a few extra verses to it, especially in the beginning, and you can tell for sure it's a song from the 1920s by the type of music played alone. If you got 3 minutes to spare and never heard it before, do check out the original version, it's extremely cool indeed to hear: "See See Rider" by Ma Rainey
As I noted, there were so many covers of this great song just done by rockers alone from the 1950s thru the early '70s, that I wasn't sure which ones to go with. Elvis used to open up most of his shows singing it (while using the correct title), so his take of it is well known, but I went with 2 of the covers that were even better known and sold the most as singles, that being the 2 bands listed in the poll question. Of course you can play both songs at the voting booth before you make your choice, both covers are very good indeed.
To make your pick between these 2 songs, just click on Classic Rock Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 2” to vote on this question.
In last week’s first Rock poll, we asked: On what song did Bobby Keys shine the brightest?
No contest at all for the top pick, not that I think anybody expected one, as Bobby’s sax on “Brown Sugar” took that spot as expected. But the rest of the spots were tight, with his sax on “Can't You Hear Me Knocking” second, and “Whatever Gets You thru the Night” w/ John Lennon and Elton John, landing in third.
To see the full, final results from this poll, click here: Classic Rock Poll 1, week 558 Or, to just view the final top ten picks from this poll, they will show up at the Top songs. by Artists and Session Players page. So just click here for: Top Ten Lists, Page, 13.
In last week’s Rock VS poll, we asked: ' Mother' by John Lennon vs 'Mother' by Pink Floyd, which one of these 2 songs with the same title, is better?
John Lennon’s song lead for the entire week and finished with 60% of the votes. To see the final results of this poll, go here: Classic Rock VS Poll, week 558. You can also check out the final results at the VS results page 2, at the Classic Rock site, just click on: VS Page 2, List Page 10.
I close up this poll post with the Beatles poll, where it’s week 312, and this week’s question is: Of the following songs written about (or for) John Lennon, which one is the best?
This week we look at 18 songs that were written about or for John Lennon. Most of the songs are totally about him, in a couple of them, only part of the song is about him. I did not include any songs where just Lennon's name - or just one single line in the song is about him, there has to be just a bit more than just that for a song to be included, but had I included such songs there would have been another 50 to list! No question, Lennon comes up most often in rock songs over any other rocker.
To make your choice on the one song about John that you like best, go here: Beatles Weekly Poll.
In last week's Beatles poll we answered this question: What was the best solo song put out by a former Beatle? Another vote last where we kind of knew in advance which song would end up first, so like with the Bobby Keys poll, the real guess was where the other songs would end up. Of the top 10 songs picked, Lennon had 5 of his song on the list (and 4 out of the top 5 spots), even though he had released the fewest number of solo songs out of the 4 former Beatles. But you can check out all of the songs from this poll and see where they finished, here: Beatles Weekly Poll – week 311. Or, you can check out the poll’s top pick only at the following Beatles list page, just click on Beatles Miscellaneous Listings, which is located at the domain’s Lennon Site. BTW, the Beatles poll last week saw over 900 votes for the first time for that poll!
That will do it for this week’s poll thread. I thank all of you who take part in the voting here each week in our 5 weekly polls!
Keno
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