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Name: Keno
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Date: Sunday, August 23, 2015
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vs. Week 837 of our Stones poll is here and it’s also time to run another installment of the Stones albums VS poll, with week 4 of the Wheels of Steel poll. This week’s question and matchup is:Steel Wheels vs Their Satanic Majesties Request , which album do you like the best?
Their Satanic Majesties Request was the 6th UK and 8th US studio album put out by the Stones, released on December 8, 1967 by Decca Records in the UK and on the following day in the US by London Records. It reached #3 in the UK and # 2 in the US, but unlike any other Stones album, other than maybe parts of the US released Flowers LP, this one was all about psychedelic music, a kind of music that the Stones weren't known for, or too fond of. But psychedelic music was at its peak during this time and the Stones felt they had to give it a go. Most fans weren't too crazy about this one when it first came out, but it was the first of several Stones album that would grow on their fans in time, to a point that it actually became a much loved album by the time the mid '70s came around. Brian Jones was one of those who didn't care for the album, but it was his work that even Mick Jagger noted was the only reason why some of the songs were used, including what many feel was the best song on the album, "2000 Light Years from Home", which wasn't going to be released and was shelved by the Glimmer Twins, until Brian got his hands on it and added in keyboards - including his eerie mellotron, which gave the song new life, to say the least.
John Lennon and Paul McCartney provided backing vocals on 2 songs, "Sing This All Together" and "We Love You, and all 4 Beatles’ faces were hidden in different spots on the album's freaky front cover. TSMR contained one of only 2 composed Bill Wyman songs ever used by the Stones, "In Another Land", which he sang the lead on. There was also a hidden track on the album, "Cosmic Christmas" (running time 35 seconds).
So are you ready to make your pick for which album that you dig more? To vote, just click on: Stones Weekly Poll.
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And then there was just one…. In last week’s Stones poll we asked:Steel Wheels vs Dirty Work , which album do you like the best?
Steel Wheels finally won a round of the Stones album VS poll with last week’s polling. So with Dirty Work losing last week to SW, it is now zero for 14 and the lone album not to have won yet in this long running series of questions. At this point I don't think SW will ever win one of these, knowing how most of us Stones fans think overall about this album, but at least last week it had its best showing ever with the Stones VS poll, yet it still lost in a landslide, too.
To see the final total of votes that both albums received, you can do that by clicking on this link: Stones Weekly Poll - week 836 . I’ll also add the results of this poll to the Stones VS Page, where at the top of the page you can check out the updated standings on how each album as done in these long running VS polls.
Let’s now head over to the Classic Rock Poll, its week 479, and as usual, we will vote in 2 different polls for the week. In the first poll we will ask this: Who was the most underrated member of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers?
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers is an American rock band from Gainesville, Florida. So many fans think of this group as mainly Tom Petty's backup band, but on paper they are a real band, even if Tom is the sole lead singer in the group and the one who writes most of the songs. In 1976 when they started out, the band's original lineup was Tom Petty as the vocalist and guitar player, Mike Campbell as the lead guitarist, Ron Blair on bass, Stan Lynch on drums, and Benmont Tench on keyboards. The band has mainly kept this lineup since they formed, with a few exceptions. In 1982, Blair, who was tired of the touring, left the band. His replacement was Howie Epstein, who would be in the band for the next 20 years. But in his last several years in the group, Epstein became a junkie and could hardly play at times. He would miss shows and recording sessions because of his drug problems. Petty seeing the band couldn’t go on with Epstein being in the state he was in, talked Blair into returning to the group in 2002, and sadly in the next year, Epstein would die from his heroin and drug problems.
Scott Thurston joined the Heartbreakers in 1991, at first as a temporary, extra guitarist, who would also fill in on bass every so often when Epstein wasn’t around to play. In 1994, Lynch would leave the band and he was replaced by drummer Steve Ferrone.
Who in this interesting group of musicians do you feel was most underrated? To vote in this week’s first rock poll, just click on: Classic Rock Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 1” to vote on this question.
For this week’s VS poll, we ask: ' Live and Let Die': Paul McCartney's original vs Guns N' Roses’s cover, which version is better? We're in our last week of a solo Beatles VS poll series of questions, as we vote on this McCartney number.
"Live and Let Die" is the main theme song of the 1973 James Bond film Live and Let Die, written by Paul McCartney and performed by Paul's band Wings. They recorded "Live and Let Die" during the sessions for the Red Rose Speedway album. It became a hit single for the band, and the most successful Bond theme up to that point, charting at #2 on the US Billboard Hot 100 and #9 on the UK Singles Chart. Commissioned specifically for the movie and credited officially to Paul and Linda McCartney, the song reunited Paul with the Beatles' producer, George Martin, who produced the song and arranged the orchestral break. The tune became the first James Bond theme song to be nominated for an Academy Award for Best Original Song (McCartney’s second Academy Award nomination), but it lost to the theme song from The Way We Were.
The song has been covered by several bands, with Guns N' Roses' version being the most popular. Both McCartney's and Guns N' Roses' versions were nominated for Grammys. Guns N' Roses covered the song live at their shows at first, and then put out a studio version of it in 1991 on their LP Use Your Illusion I. This version of the song was used as their second single from the album and it charted to make the Top 20 in the US, in fact, it landed exactly at #20 on the Mainstream Rock chart. A music video was made of them playing the song in November 1991; featuring the band playing live on stage (you can check the video out in the voting booth). It would be the last time Izzy Stradlin would play with them.
So which version of this song do you like more? To cast your vote in this week’s VS poll, click on Classic Rock Poll, and when you get to this page, choose “Poll 2” to vote on this question.
In last week’s first Rock poll we asked: Who was the most underrated member of Cream? . What a difference 2 weeks can make in these polls. 2 weeks ago we saw the lowest winning percentage achieved, yet for last week, we got to see the second highest total. Jack Bruce was the clear favorite and took in 78.9% of the vote, with Ginger Baker receiving 21.1%. Eric Clapton didn’t receive a single vote, which proves that our voters are very smart and know what their voting for.
To see the full, final results from this poll, click on: Classic Rock Poll 1, week 478. Or you can check out the list of each person selected from all of the other bands that we already voted on at the Top Ten Lists, Page, 11.
In last week’s VS poll, we asked: ‘Stand By Me': Ben E King's original vs John Lennon’s cover, which version is better? Well a former Beatle actually lost in the VS poll for once, and it was John Lennon of all the Beatles to do so. Hard to believe since Lennon really got this one right and it was an excellent cover indeed, but he was up against an outstanding original take of this classic, and Ben E King’s song won in close voting. Well I disagree with this outcome, but as I have noted many times before, I’m real good at picking the second place finisher in these VS polls!
To see the final results from this poll, just click here: Classic Rock VS Poll, week 478. You can also check out the final results at the VS results page 2, at the Classic Rock site, just click on: VS Page 2, List Page 10.
We finish up with the Beatles’ poll, where we enter week 232, and the new poll question will ask: On a scale from zero to ten, how do you rate the album Please Please Me? We asked this question in the past at the Stones poll and it took a few years to get through all of the Stones LPs, and now for the first time, we will run this question at the Beatles poll. Since the Beatles only have 13 studio albums, it won’t take anywhere as long to run this compared to when we asked it for the Stones. You all know how we do this, with the ratings being 1 for the lowest rating, and 10 the highest.
Please Please Me is the debut studio album by the Beatles. Released on Parlophone Records on March 22 1963 in the UK , the label was looking to take advantage of the success of the Beatles 2 singles, "Please Please Me", which was #1 on almost all of the charts, and "Love Me Do", which made it to #17.
Of the album's 14 songs, eight of them were written by band members John Lennon and Paul McCartney, plus this group of singers also played their own instruments, and didn't use session musicians like most rock artists before them did. They were a real, true rock band indeed! This kind of band of course would become the norm in rock music after the Beatles, but with this album, what they were doing wasn't seen too often in rock music up until this time.
So yes, this was a special and different kind of album in many ways, even if the music inside of it was mainly pop music. Besides the 2 hit songs, there were another 12 hot ones including the likes of "I Saw Her Standing There", "Misery", "P.S. I Love You", "Baby It's You", "Do You Want to Know a Secret?", and the hard rock song "Twist and Shout". John was the main lead singer on the album, but Paul still got to sing lead on 3 songs, while George and Ringo sang lead on one song each.
You can go here to see the list of songs on the album: http://www.beatlesbible.com/albums/please-please-me/.
To rate the first ever Beatle album, please use this link: Beatles Weekly Poll.
In last week's Beatles poll we answered this question What is the best hidden track on a Beatles album or CD? This was one of those polls where you might not have had a good clue to which song would win beforehand. In the end, perhaps I should had realized that everything on Abbey Road is loved, and that it’s one song in this poll would take first place, that being “Her Majesty”. This song that at first was supposed to be part of the long medley of short songs on side 2 (between “Mean Mr Mustard” and “Polythene Pam”), where all the songs flow into one another. But the band decided it wasn’t as good as the others and removed it. By accident, the song after being removed from the medley, ended up at the very end of the album’s master tape. The crashing guitar chord that opens “Her Majesty” is actually the final chord from a rough mix of “Mean Mr Mustard”, and it ends abruptly because its own final note was left to be used for the beginning of "Polythene Pam".
When the Beatles decided to not use the song, Paul told the tape operator to destroy it, but EMI had a policy stating that no Beatles recording were ever to be destroyed (don’t you wish the Stones had such a policy back in the ‘60s?), so instead of totally removing the song off the album, it was placed 14 seconds after the last song so when the tape was worked on, they would know it was only there to be saved and not used on the album. But then I guess the tape operator forgot to note that it was on there and that’s how and why it became a hidden track, by accident, yet it wasn’t supposed to be hidden on there! When the Beatles heard the final master for the LP, and heard it on there, 14 seconds after the album ended, they loved what they heard and decided to keep it there. The song was not listed on the original vinyl record's sleeve as the sleeves had already been printed before the mistake was noticed. However, it’s listed today on the CD edition of the album.
Anyway, “Her Majesty” took in 18.7% of the first place votes. From the White Album came the second place finisher, that being “Can You Take Me Back”, the unofficial title of what some insist is really the false ending to “Cry Baby Cry”, and not a hidden trick; this song saw 17.8% of the vote.
To see how the voting ended up for everything else listed in the poll’s choices, you can check out the final results here: Beatle’s Weekly Poll – week 231. Or, you can check out the top pick at the Beatles Miscellaneous polling page , located at the domain’s Lennon Site.
Well another new week is upon us. I do hope this one turns into a better one than what we saw here last week, with all of the silly, unnecessary fussing that went on, that, and then the entire domain being down for almost a full day thanks to network problems that my host couldn’t solve. So I believe that we're bound to have a better week, this week!
As always, thanks to all of you who vote each week in our polls!
Keno
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