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Name: Keno
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Subject: RE: Several things...
Date: Friday, May 29, 2015
Time: 2:37:15 PM
Remote Address: 162.255.159.6
Message ID: 294643
Parent ID: 294622
Thread ID: 294608

RE: Several things...

They've certainly made it real easy to get cheap seats.

If that's the case now, then fine, but it wasn't always the case. I'll stick to what I already said on this in the past, if you know you are overcharging your fan base, why do it? Plus, give all of your fans a break instead of only a handful of them, since without us fans, you never would have made it in the first place!

Now, this next part is long, but please try to stay with me here on this....

There is nothing wrong with bitching about something if you see wrong in it. I see a lot of good within the Stones, but I also see a lot of bad with the way the Stones operate their business, and if you talk to those deep inside of the Stones camp, they will agree. It's clear to me that many of those who work directly with the Stones CEO, or those who have to work with him but don't work for him, are afraid of him because of how he operates. There ins't anything cool about that at all, and us fans have every right to bitch if we know this stuff (in my case), or if they just feel it's this way... just like the others here (and elsewhere) who want to defend that snotty kind of business, can do that here too. But please (and this ins't directed to any one person and no disrespect is intended), don't bitch to me that I'm bitching here about something the Stones are doing that I don't like, since you are in turn doing the very same thing to me! In other words, go ahead and counter what I'm saying and stick up for the Stones if you like, that's fine, but - don't bitch that I or others here are bitching when all you are doing - is the very same thing - bitching!

I guess I should note (not that it really matters or not, but I never noted this before here, only in emails to a few of you), that even though I bitch about stuff like ticket prices, about a year ago I finally made the list with the Stones as to those (like friends and family) who are offered the best seats in the house for any of their shows. So I non longer have to worry about getting tickets to any show (as long as I get a hold of them before the seats that are set aside for this are all gone) and I'm guarantee a great floor seat. I still have to pay for it, but not at scalper ticket prices. Sadly, since the Stones haven't played anywhere near where I live, I haven't had the chance to take advantage of this yet.

I never spoke about this here before in part, because many Gassers would ask me to get them these tickets too, for where they live, and that I can't do unless I was going to the show with them. Believe me, when I was first included in this group, I asked about this, and they made it very clear to me if I did that only once, it would be the very last time I would do that - and they would see to it that it won't happen again. So anyway, some who I've told this to in emails have asked me, why do you even bitch about ticket prices, etc, if you are now included in this small field of fans?... and I've also been told: They could take this away from you if you bitch! Well the answer to both is, yeah, they could toss me off this list for bitching, and I rather that not happen. But first, I will not stop believing what I feel needs to be said, I will not censor myself and be a ass kisser for the Stones or anybody for that matter. I feel it's more important to stand up for what I believe in and what I feel is fair and right. I've fought against things I feel are unjust my entire life (yes, I've even gone to jail once for this) and I can't change the person who I am now, nor would I. Although a handful here dislike me because I am this way, I'm not gonna change because the Stones camp are patting me on the back now. I think I made it where I am with the Stones because of my helping them make all kinds of money for years on end now (be it selling tickets to shows, albums, or the free work I did in helping to build their new [now old] website).. I think they know that I'm bringing in more good to the Stones than bad in my bitching about them, and most of my bitch is not about ticket prices anyway.... it's about other shit like no MT, and the Glimmers forgetting who their founder was, or who their true fans are. Plus nobody writes a better online review about their shows (I'm talking about the shows I see), or praises them better in reviews about anything new that they put put than I, and I think those are the main reasons I finally made my way on that list. But of course, with that said, if they ever did put on a bad show that I attended (which I find very hard to believe they ever will), or if they released a new album that I didn't like, I would still say how I truly feel about it, they just, IMO, have put on nothing but great shows whenever I have seen them, and since after the release of B2B, they have put out nothing but great new songs.

Now 2 last things before I close out this reply... First, this special arrangement that I'm talking about here that the Stones have for a limited number of their friends and family is not suppose to be spoken about publicly, but I felt this one time it needed to be addressed and it isn't like most fans don't know about it, most fans do know about it and I'll never bring it up in this matter again. But I noted it here because again, some think we should not bitch about the Stones ever, and I could not disagree more with that and I'll put everything on the line to defend what I believe in. If you only want to say good things about the Stones here, and many only do that, then great, keep doing so, but, some of us who see problems and unfairness within this band, well again, we have as much as a right to bitch as those who only praise them - that is the bottom line, it's how Gasx3 has always been, and how it will always be. Yet I will say, I do agree that the MT bitching has gone on for a long time, but again, every show they play without him just reminds some here of that problem. I'll also note, that it's more than likely that the reason they invited MT along for those other tours was because of places like Gasland and the other boards talking about it. If none of us had ever said anything about MT in the first place, chances are, other than for that 50th anniversary show held in the UK, MT would not have ever gone on tour with them (and MT's office needs to know that, since they seem not to understand that!). The Stones may not like our bitching (and I wish there was nothing to bitch about), but they do listen a bit to us anyway, so I thank them for that. So to everybody, just keep being yourself, keep praising them if that's all you want to do, and keep bitching if you feel they need to hear you, since the Stones do still read this board.

Okay, now the second thing... Most of you don't know who Vincent Whirlwind is unless you've been here since about 2000 when he first posted. So for those of you who are wondering, he's long time poster LoveYouLive. He used to post as Vincent Whirlwind in 2000 until he changed his handle, and when we started up the password system here in '05, I allowed those who had earlier handles to keep those other handles too..... Now, if you been here for more than a half year, then you know that, for the most part, LYL stopped posting around that time, other than 2 or 3 times since, but this is the first time he has posted as Vincent Whirlwind since '00. Not sure why he felt he had to post in that matter now, he was never banned or asked to leave, although I'll admit, he and 2 other close friends of his were a thorn in my side for way too long. If you totally don't like somebody, then why post at the board that they run? He and his 2 cohorts all did stop posting on their own, and life has been fame free here since. Yet I never disliked any of them 3, only the way they mistreat me, and with LYL, how he mistreated a few others here. LYL and I have met in the real world, we went to a show together and I sat next to him, next to the B stage, with a ticket he got for me. I in turn was happy to be able to give my ticket away for the same show, to PA, a guy I've met and partied more than once with in the past. But my free B side ticket, and in turn PA's free ticket from me, only happened thanks to LYL. So as far as LYL goes, he can act like he dislikes me now all he wants, but deep down I know the good he did for me, and the fun I had with him over 2 days, and I will never forget that. No, that doesn't give him permission to mistreat me or be rude to others here, but while I disliked some of his actions here of the last few years, I don't dislike him and I know he has a good side to him, and I'll always remember that about him... Yeah, there are 2 sides to every story and he has his reasons to dislike me today, but anybody who has read this board for years know what has gone down between the 2 of us, and knows the true story here, so no need to rehash all of that. Bottom line is, LYL, along with his 2 cohorts, still can post here if they like, but they don't have permission to harass anybody or any one person, either. If they came back and did that, the same stuff that LYL and one of his cohorts was bitching about when he left the last time, would still apply - that being that I will remove any such flame posts, like it or not. Flaming has never been allowed here, and anybody who flames regularly, will have their flames removed fast!... Trying to damage the board's webmaster isn't cool at all unless you're trying to have him close the joint down. But I rather remember LYL and his 2 friends from back in the days when the 4 of us were all friends, and I have never started a single flame that has come between any of us. Yet once a flame is directed towards me, I don't let it slide either, I go at them. So maybe in the future instead of doing that I'll just delete anything flame related that is made and not reply at all? Yeah, doing that would make me a censor, but then again, the 3 of them have been calling me that for 2 or 3 years now anyway. But I rather just have peace here and end all of that shit, and see LYL, along with his 2 friends rerturn in peace. But I'm only one of the 4 here, and who knows what they really want for sure. But in using the same words that the bad guy Don Corleone used in Godfather 1, "On the soul of my grandchildren, I will not be the one to break any peace that we should make today". Okay, that may not be the exact words the Don said, but it's close enough, and I mean it. But the last thing I want and need is any more flames here. As most of you know, my health hasn't been good for the last year, and I've gone against the doctors orders in not allowing any more surgeries on me. 4 in one year was more than enough. But I got to be in good mind all the time to help me get back to good health (and I'm still not there yet), so please to LYL and his friends, if you don't want peace with me and only want to come back to flame me again, then just let your good side show and just stay away from here. The choice is yours to make, not mine, and I'm not saying I'm totally blameless, either, but no, I didn't start a single flame, either. Thanks to all for reading this long reply.

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