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Name: Keno
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Subject: RE: RE: Rock history/FB/STH
Date: Monday, December 01, 2014
Time: 12:14:28 PM
Remote Address: 162.255.157.10
Message ID: 289550
Parent ID: 289545
Thread ID: 289533

RE: RE: Rock history/FB/STH

That is SO US-centric!!!

Yes, and it should be for what is being covered. But with the Fabs, their success in the US was what made them big everywhere else, regardless if they were already big in the UK. You gotta remember, this wasn't modern day times at all, there was little in the way of getting out new music products (like there is today with mass media), or in turning out new artists to the masses. The only way to do so in those days was via the US and the Sullivan show. Of course, the Baby Boomers coming of age at the very same time as the Beatles came of age, also helped big time too, there was just so many of us Boomers around and so few of the others, and it all took off like a tidal wave. But the main successful of new Rock music in the '50s and '60s was mainly US based, even if most of the best early and mid '60s bands were from the UK, they needed the US push to get them known world-wide.

Had it not been Ed Sullivan, it would have been something else.

Again, in early '64, I don't think so, not in the way it all took place. It was because of Sullivan, his show, and his insight, that the news got out a few weeks before it happened, and once the news got out, it exploded. You can't say something else would have happened since nothing else did happen. The Beatles were already big in the UK for around a year and nothing was happening anywhere else until they hit the US - then boom! That's the route the British invasion took, through the US, after all, the British couldn't invade their own land, they needed something like what took place in the US to change things. No other country was ready for what the US was ready for in '64, and with JFK just killed and the country still in shock over that event, the Beatles timing, arrival and appearance on Sullivan was just perfect - and what in reality is what happened and what did take place.

Keno, that song was released in 1973, not 1974

Yes, and I noted that in my post. I did have it listed in the poll choice as 1974 since the single was released at that time - as I also noted in my post, but after reflection, I guess the song's album release should be noted first, so I changed it to '73, but the song did have 2 different release dates, one in '73 and one in '74.

Page & Plant find themselves embroiled in yet another legal battle over supposedly stolen material. And it looks like they've lost Round 1

The major difference between Page & Plant and Jagger & Richards was Page & Plant stole mainly from those outside of their band, while the Glimmers stole directly from their bandmates, and that's why they got away with it while Page & Plant to this day still don't. When your bandmates come up with new music and present it to you, and you take that music and put your name on it only, there is no way to prove that for the others as to what happened (as it becomes a 'he said, she said' deal), whereas when Page & Plant stole from others and the music was already copyrighted, then they will lose every time it goes to court, since there's something that can be proven on paper.

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